AITA for not wanting to talk about my children that I lost in the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami?

In the quiet anticipation of a joyful family Christmas in Thailand, a sudden, merciless tsunami shattered their world, ripping apart the fragile threads of safety and hope. A mother’s desperate prayers echoed from a hotel room, torn between the fierce fight for survival and the agonizing uncertainty about her husband and children, swallowed by the relentless waves.

Reunited but forever changed, the family’s four-month search for their lost children was a haunting journey through grief and despair. Ultimately forced to face the unbearable, they returned home carrying a silence heavier than words—an unspoken sorrow that would forever mark the hardest chapter of their lives.

AITA for not wanting to talk about my children that I lost in the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami?

In 2004, my family and I decided that over the Christmas period we’d go on vacation to Thailand. My husband had spent some time there as a child and really wanted to go back. I had two small children, a 4 year old girl and a 2 year old boy.

We arrived on the 23rd of December and were due to go back on the 2nd of January. On the 26th, Boxing Day, a tsunami hit the resort we were staying in. I was upstairs in our hotel room when it hit, whilst my husband was with our children in the dining area.

I prayed that my husband had our children whilst I fought for myself.

My husband and I were reunited three days later, and he told me that the tsunami hit before he managed to grab our children. We stayed in Thailand for 4 months hoping our children were being kept somewhere with us presumed dead, but after searching pretty much everywhere, we presumed the worst and returned home which was the hardest thing we’ve ever done.

I didn’t deal with the loss well, nor did my husband, and we ended up divorcing three years later. We couldn’t even look at pictures of the kids, and broke down just looking at each other.

My family have always been as respectful as they can, apart from my mother.

My mother and I have never had a good relationship. She was heavily addicted to drugs when I was born, and was in and out of my life until I was 15 when she sobered up. I was full of resentment and left the family home at 16 and we went about ten years without talking.

Over the quarantine period, I have been staying with my sister and her family, and they also let my mom live with them. My mom will make dinners extremely uncomfortable for me by telling my nieces about the cousins they never got to meet, and how she felt when she found out, even though we weren’t talking at the time.

Last night I finally snapped. We were sitting having dinner when my mom asked how my now ex husband is. I told her I don’t know, as I don’t, we haven’t spoken that often since we divorced.

She asked if we’d still be together if the kids were alive, I asked how the fuck I was meant to know. She told me to stop being a bitch and I told her to stop bringing up my dead children.

My nieces started getting upset because we were shouting, my sister told me to calm down as they’re all allowed to grieve too, which I completely disagree with.

I left my sisters house and to a hotel not too far away because I seriously can’t take it anymore, but my sister has called multiple times telling me I’ve become a serious asshole since losing my children.

AITA?

Here’s how people reacted:

PristineTreat

NTA. Yes, the loss of your children extends to your family, and even their friends and your own friends who have met them, but no one will feel it greater than you and your husband. It sounds like you and your mother/sister grieve in opposing ways: you do not want to talk about your children, but your mother and sister want to include them in their lives and talk/think about them regularly.

Your mother crossed a line by bringing up your children despite knowing your feelings, then again by asking if you and your husband would still be together if they were alive (a question that only serves to be extremely nosey, cold hearted, and condescending). Your sister also crossed a line by calling you an asshole since losing your children. It sounds like they simply cannot understand your feelings and think that you should be processing your grief more like they are and are frustrated that you aren’t.

I think getting space away from them and going to the hotel was a great idea, but it might be time to think about next steps. Living with your sister and mother might not be good for your mental health, and it maybe it’s time to start thinking about a different place to wait out the rest of the quarantine where you won’t be bombarded with shit like this and your feelings will be respected.

ScrumptiousLasagne27

NTA. Hmm, question. Why the *fuck* would your mum think that talking about your dead children casually over dinner was a good idea? In what world? And WHY would she talk about them to small children? How would you even bring that up over dinner? ‘Timmy can you pass the potato’s? Oh and while you’re at it let me tell me about your dead cousins and how I felt about it’.

You are not the asshole in any way, shape or form. Your mum on the other hand is, and your sister is just as bad for taking her side. Yes they are allowed to grieve as well, but they are you kids, your flesh and blood. I’ve never lost a child so I can only imagine the absolute sorrow and heartbreak you’ve experienced. So while they can grieve, they can’t possibly feel that they have a right to disregard your feelings and talk about your kids right in front of you. If it is painful for you to talk about your children, that’s your choice and they should respect that.

I’m so sorry about your children, and I hope that they and you find peace.

mouse_attack

NTA

Obviously losing your children is the most painful event that ever happened to you. Decent people don’t sit down with someone night after night and force them to relive their greatest pain, and that’s exactly what your mother is doing.

You are the children’s *mother*, and anyone with an ounce of empathy would realize that they need to respect your grief process. That includes letting you set the terms on how and when the topic of their loss is raised.

It sounds like your mother is looking for new ways to twist the knife on the daily, and enlisting your sister’s family as accomplices. Your sister should have shut her down on first mention, or at the least when it became obvious that the constant reference to your children is causing you pain. I can’t even imagine what her kids are thinking when grandma brings up “the cousins they’ll never meet.”

I hope you have somewhere else to go. That environment is just beyond toxic.

bunnycat77

NTA NTA NTA
I knew a woman who lost both her young children in a fire. She also divorced. I would NEVER bring her children up to her, let alone act the way your family did. Your mother did this intentionally, imo. If she had really known your children and was trying to sweetly teach their cousins about them while you were not there, I could see that. She did the exact opposite. What you went through, my heart weeps for you. I’m terrified every day something might happen to my only child. I don’t care how old you are, you will never get over the loss of a child. You just learn to deal with the pain. You grow up knowing some day you will lose your parents, but you never expect to lose a child. My grandparents never got over losing my mother. I watched them both grieve. I am so very, very sorry for the loss of both your children *and* the loss of your marriage.
UnlikelyReliquary

I was living in Thailand during the tsunami, we almost went to the beach that weekend but decided not to at the last minute. Two kids in my class were in it and survived, unfortunately two younger kids from my school did not. My dad was with the state department and worked overtime for a month trying to reconnect american families and account for the dead. He still cries whenever there is a tsunami or natural disaster in a movie or TV show. The tsunami was a tragedy that effected so many lives. I’m so so sorry for your loss. NTA, your mom is a major AH and completely inconsiderate and cruel. But I highly suggest trying a therapist
Nerdyhousewife

Holy mother of god no! NTA to infinity. Oh my god I want to beat them all up for you (metaphorically with stern and harsh words). Fuck man I can’t even imagine what you still go through because a person never heals from that wound and how freaking callous of them to not respect your wishes. My heart breaks for you, the utter devastation you and your ex went through deserves all manner of respect and they all need to follow any rules you set up to deal or live after that trauma.
Dana07620

>I left my sisters house and to a hotel not too far away because I seriously can’t take it anymore,

I do not blame you at all. NTA

>my sister has called multiple times telling me I’ve become a serious asshole since losing my children

Like she’d react so much better if all her kids were suddenly killed.

I am so sorry for you. I don’t know how you move through the rest of your life carrying this but I hope you find a way.

tappytaps

NTA of course. They’re YOUR children and YOU decide how to grieve their loss.

This

>She asked if we’d still be together if the kids were alive,

>my sister has called multiple times telling me I’ve become a serious asshole since losing my children

WTF? When your sister loses children herself, THEN she can tell you you’re acting like an asshole… Until then.

Good for you for getting out of that toxic situation.

aurelie_v

There’s no way you could be the asshole here. I am so, so sorry. This is one of the saddest posts I’ve ever read on this sub – you’ve truly been through the darkest of human experience, and no one has the right to judge you.

You deserve space, respect and genuine compassion from those who care for you.

safikiri

NTA ur mom seems like still an addict but not drugs or alcohol, I think she is addicted to attention. They are ur children and u have every right to be sad and don’t wanna keep remember them (I’m sure u never forget don’t take me wrong) and ur mom is just using u to get attention.
jauns_on_jauns

If somebody says “you’ve become a serious asshole since losing your children”, they are a disgusting person, full stop. There’s no excuse for that. There’s no excuse that, ever. NTA.

With that said, are you in therapy?

[deleted]

WOW. NTA. I’m so sorry for you loss. I’m sure you know most marriages don’t survive the loss of a child, let alone two. Your family is beyond ignorant about your loss and your wishes. You are absolutely NTA.
thatkidkayden

I’ve always been just a lurker but I had to comment on this post you are DEFINITELY NTA IN THIS. I am so sorry you went through losing your whole family and I hope one day you manage to find some peace!
Current-Read

NTA your mom was purposely digging into you for a reaction. Im sorry for your loss and i hope the distance from your family who dont respect your boundaries gives you some better peace.
WhiskeyNovemberSix

NTA – “You’ve become a serious asshole since losing your children”

What the fuck is she expecting? Holy fuck get out of there and get away from those people.

YuriMagnus

NTA at all and I think you did a good thing by leaving.

Can’t help to worry though, do you have someone else to talk, to rely on? How are you doing?

MaryK007

I’m so sorry your family has chosen to be assholes in this time. Please move and go on with your life away from them. My heart hurts for you.

Conclusion

The original poster (OP) is dealing with profound, unresolved grief stemming from the loss of both their children in the 2004 tsunami, a trauma that also destroyed their marriage. The central conflict arises when the OP’s mother repeatedly weaponizes this shared, tragic loss in casual family settings, forcing the OP to confront painful memories and leading to an inevitable confrontation and subsequent departure from the sister’s home.

Does the OP have the right to demand absolute silence regarding their deceased children in interactions with their mother, or does the sister’s assertion that others, including the mother, also have a right to express their grief, even if inappropriately timed, hold validity? Where should the line be drawn between respecting profound trauma and acknowledging communal loss?

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