Told 11 yr old no to wearing a binder

An 11-year-old’s brave revelation of their emerging identity unfolds a tender and complex journey between parent and child. In the fragile space where innocence meets self-discovery, a child’s plea for understanding collides with a parent’s protective caution, weaving a story of love, fear, and hope.

Caught between supporting authenticity and safeguarding growth, the parent wrestles with the urgency of a child’s feelings and the realities of physical and emotional development. This is a poignant tale of navigating identity, acceptance, and the unspoken challenges that lie beneath the surface of a young soul’s search for self.

Told 11 yr old no to wearing a binder

My 11 yr old recently came out to me as maybe being gay. I said hell yeah. Tonight they told me they want to be called they/she pronouns and want a binder for their birthday.

It quickly escalated to “you’re making me feel guilty and I shouldn’t have told you” and tears.

I said I’m not opposed to being non binary, but you haven’t even had your period yet, maybe chill on the binder. Additionally, I have concerns of a non developed person wearing something like that considering what I know waist trainers and corsets can do from extended use.

This kid is a type b. Won’t even brush their hair or teeth unless I tell them to. I didn’t say no, I said act responsible and let your body develop and I’ll consider it.

I’m also worried they are having some kind of crises because of not being as developed as the other girls. They are much more child like in how their body is forming and still have a ton of baby teeth.

They were also diagnosed with autism this year and that was a big deal in terms of being mentally taxing for anyone.

I said I’m not saying I won’t (I immediately even picked up the pronoun) but based on what I know about them and having seen my cousin go through being non binary, that’s a tough call to make because of how hard it made my cousins life, my fear of how my child will be treated in today’s political climate and the fact that they are so young and not developed.

I feel like a flubbed this up. I ended it with I love you no matter what, but my job is to make sure I guide you to adulthood safely and not to be just a chill mom.

Anyone nonbinary willing to give me some tips?

Here’s how people reacted:

SpecificSimple6920

nonbinary person who used to bind pre-top surgery—first off: tell them you love and support them! Make home the safest place to experiment with gender presentation—it’s easier to change and try things out at home! the world will be cruel, regardless of if you let them try things now or later. Focus on this emotional safety first with your kid. celebrate! buy them a they/she cake!

Maybe a week from now, ask your kid if they want to see a gender affirming doctor with you (if you have access to one!). Tell them you’ve done your research on binders because you’re soOoO supportive(not trying to be too sarcastic here, just want to make sure you know this is the thing to emphasize), and you’ve heard that binders can hurt adult people’s ribs and lungs, so you want to check with a doctor since they’re still growing about how this might affect their posture/spine/lungs later on

Binders are dangerous to wear without a strict “remove every eight hours and take 1-2 days off binding a week” and even then it can still fuck up your posture when your bones are done. A doctor needs to tell your kid this,it shouldn’t come from you.

Offer to get KT tape or TransTape for them instead, help them put it on the first few times and remind them when they need to take it off to take a break the first few times—it can irritate your skin but it isn’t dangerous to your organs and bones lol. Otherwise, set up a signed agreement about binder responsibility using a doctor’s recommendations. Something like “I will set a timer every time i put it on, and will text you when i put it on/remove it. if i can do this consistently for the first X number times i wear it (or however many times they need to learn a habit) then i can wear one unsupervised and will be bought a second one with a different color(or a different reward)”

NAH

sillyfawkes

Alright, just so you know where I’m talking from; I’m a 27 year old transman who wears a binder daily. I don’t know shit about parenting. If I were you, I’d avoid speculating on the reasoning behind your child’s gender presentation. You mention unimportant things like “they are having a crises” and “ton of baby teeth”. I’m not trying to grill you or be some douche on the internet, but try your best to trust your kid on this. Whether they continue with this transition or not, they will always remember your kindness or lack thereof with this situation. Try and be as supportive as you can, for their sake.

NOW! For the binder issue… I wear mine daily. For the maximum amount of time (8 hours, any longer can cause physical damage to the chest, spine, and lungs). I assume your 11 year old is in school, and probably likes to do some kind of physical activity. With a binder- which I can imagine they would certainly want to wear to do both of those things- there would be risk of injury. You were right to speculate on that. If I were you, I’d explain the real health risks, and offer to buy a compression shirt instead! A lot of smaller-chested AFAB people use them. I wear them when I work out. They don’t pose the physical risks a binder does. In my humble no kid experience, I’m constantly blown away by how intelligent kids can be. I speak to them plainly, and most of the time they listen. I think you have a real opportunity to bond on your hands! Just be honest, and be supportive, and be kind. Shit like this is confusing for you, but it’s also confusing for them! I wish you two the best. You’ve got this.

Inks-Books

NTA tbh, as an agendered person who has to wear a bra, growing up I HATED both having a large chest hanging free (cause sweat and movement made things uncomfortable, not to mention the mocking I got from my classmates for not wearing a bra) and having to wear a bra for the first time (extremely long adjustment period because of feeling confined where I hadn’t been before, texture issues, and stepping out of my comfort zone of what I was used to and into something new that I wasn’t used to yet). And, to top it all off, I was also undiagnosed as autistic at the time, which was probably the source of my discomfort issues.

Wearing a binder at that age when they are still growing and developing so rapidly WILL definitely have a negative impact on their ribcage and, later inadvertently, lung capacity. Once they are more developed and not growing as much – should they still want one – absolutely go for it! I agree with the other comments saying sports bras are a good starting place/compromise. It’s what I started out wearing as well because they were cheap, easier to find for my size (I’m a large person and have been since I was like 5 bc of health issues) and they would hold me in place.

And tbf, as for the adjustment period, it’s not just with a bra. I went through it with wearing glasses, too. Autism brain does not like new (and improved) things touching my person until it has identified it as not a threat lmao

mme_truffle

You are doing the best you can and that’s awesome. As the mother of a recently diagnosed autistic child, I understand completely how difficult this is.

Trans people definitely exist, but there is also a growing movement amongst young girls to reject their girlhood. I get why and I can relate. But I also think it’s an important reason to take things slow – particularly if this is a brand new idea that started at a crisis point. My child will tell me that they’re a boy and five minutes later they’ll want to put on a dress. I’ll be fine if they decide to transition when they’re older but right now it feels like they’re trying on identities to see what fits the best. And I told them I fully support them taking time to learn more about themselves and find out who they are before they make any decisions.

Growing up I had a lot of issues with my changing body and my growing awareness of the horrific ways that young girls were being sexualized around me was traumatic. The ones who were developing got sexualized comments and the ones who weren’t developing as quickly were put down. My reaction to that was dressing like a boy. Because if boys had the power and privilege of not being a sexual object, I wanted to access that power.

Humble-Expression191

Definitely agree on the sports bra/training bra front. It could very well be that the lack of any sort of chest support is making them uncomfortable/dysphoric. I’d highlight the physical and safety concerns of binding as the reason behind your hesitancy not you being unsupportive in any way.

I’d also ask your kid more questions about binding. Where did they hear it from? Why do they want one? What are they hoping to achieve through binding? Depending on how big your kid is they might not even have suitable binders for them to begin with. Binding if done incorrectly can be extremely dangerous and it’ll get worse the longer you bind.

Overall approach this with curiosity and focusing on the social changes they can make to feel more comfortable in their body.

The fear you have for your child is real and valid given then political climate that we’re in, it’s not a great time to be visibly queer rn but that doesn’t mean you should discourage your child from expressing themselves in the ways they want to.

TLDR: NTAH, sports bra first if they aren’t wearing one, high impact sports bra if they are (more compression), ask more questions about their feelings/identity and why they want to start binding

National_Cover_3655

Not nonbinary here, but have worked with a lot of adolescents dealing with sexual dysphoria. My advice is to find your child a physician specializing in adolescents (all pediatricians are licensed to treat adolescents, but not all sub-specialize in it), and to let that physician guide decisions about body altering and generally help with all the questions that come with that decision. Planned Parenthood might also be an option if you need help. From where I sit otherwise, you’re wise not to jump on the “look how woke I am, my child is trans” bandwagon. Trans-ism is real, and your child may well be trans. But a huge part of adolescence is asking those questions and exploring sexuality and pushing boundaries, and some of that is a phase and some of it is genuine awakening to “true self,” and we see a lot of parents who are so eager to jump on board that their kids kind of get dragged along. Stay loving, stay objective, and let an expert guide your child through this exploration.
Either_Management813

I think your opposition to binders, if it’s truly based on your valid concerns about corsets snd waist trainers, is misplaced. Binders\ don’t reshaped the ribcage as corsets and waist trainers do. As you apparently know, those rearrange the organs in ways that are damaging and reshape the ribs. Binders are more like bras with more flattening involved. If your child is trying to erase a gender flag such as breasts that are visible, a sports bra type undergarment may help. If your child has developed breasts that bounce, some sort of support is called for. If they are trying to hide their nipples from showing through clothes a so-called training bra or for that matter an undershirt will help.

NTA but I think this is a case of picking your battles and a binder isn’t one you need to pick for your child’s physical health. Let them wear one. They may always stop at some point and no matter what, it won’t reshape their body.

InstructionDry4819

As a trans person: I agree with no binder. An 11 year old probably doesn’t really have anything to bind, and it’s better to wait for that if they still feel the same way after puberty. Offer them changes that don’t have side effects — new haircut, clothing, using different pronouns, whatever. She might grow out of it, and might not. The political climate sucks. There’s not much you can do about that besides try and make your child feel safe with you at least. If you can find and afford a psychiatrist who specialises in this sort of thing, that would probably be helpful but I understand it’s not always plausible. If you go to a trans specific subreddit you might be able to get some different perspectives + more specific advice.
Fanraeth2

NTA. Before you let your kid do anything that can potentially harm them if done improperly (and binders can absolutely fuck your body up if you don’t use them right), you need to get some medical advice. It couldn’t hurt to look for a trans-friendly therapist for your kid. Not every kid with body dysmorphia over the changes puberty causes is actually trans and talking to someone who can work through the issues and figure out exactly what is going on is in your kid’s best interest rather than just assuming an 11 year old has correctly diagnosed themself.
HRHValkyrie

Point of clarification: corsets do not reshape the body unless you specifically get ones for that purpose. That is BS fear mongering by people who pass on urban legends about the past.

My biggest question is: why does this specific choice bother you? If it’s your medical worries about the binder, take your kid to see a doctor and talk about it with them. It sounds like you are making medical assumptions to cover discomfort issues you are not acknowledging.

It’s just clothes. Let the kid safely experiment.

Right_Bullfrog7480

Trans man here, NTA. Binders can cause long term damage if used incorrectly, and judging by what you said about them being type b, they might not take it off unless asked too. I regret starting to bind so early despite hitting puberty at nine. My back and chest are screwed up because of it. Definitely talk with them about why they feel this way and what other things you can do to support them. Maybe try a sports bra since some of them have the effect.
SomewhereBusy8831

1 You sound like an amazing and understanding parent! You are doing a great job and trying to understand where your child is coming from and 2. I get the whole binder thing especially as it can be harmful (the recommended use of wear for someone under 18 is at max 6-8hrs)

I say have a chat with your child and ask them why they feel the need to wear a binder (so you can understand if they are doing this as a crisis), and go on from there.

notpostingmyrealname

A full on binder might be too much, but I’m a ciswoman that has never doubted my gender. When I was a kid I wore clothing that hid/minimized my breasts because I didn’t like being sexualized, and boobs got in the way of being a tomboy. I had D cups in 4th grade, and I got teased and bullied about them.

Have a talk with kiddo and see if there’s a happy medium, and if there’s a deeper reason for wanting a binder.

Mbt_Omega

If anyone on here is saying anything other than “consult an expert,” they’re doing your kid a disservice. Schedule an appointment with a healthcare provider specializing gender dysphoria. Do what the specialist says. Seek a second opinion if everyone cannot come to terms.

NTA for not allowing a literal child not to make life altering decisions without talking to a professional.

myt4trs

If she isn’t even developed, why would she need a binder? Does she understand the purpose of a binder? It isn’t just a cool thing to wear. Would they even have a binder that would fit a non developed 11 year old? The vibe I am getting here is that child may not feel like they fit in due to autism and has heard that people are getting acceptance this way.
championgrim

NAH but it’s time to consult a professional. One thing I do want to point out is that if they’re routinely avoiding hygiene tasks, dysphoria might be playing a part on that. If your kid doesn’t like how they look in the mirror, then something like standing in front of the mirror to brush their teeth is going to feel more difficult to them.
SilverConversation19

Not nb, but am a butch lesbian. Your kid may also just be going through the shitty time that happens when a kid stops being a kid anymore and wants nothing to do with the body they’re growing into. Doesn’t mean they’re trans or nb, just a reaction to puberty. I’d consider a sports bra and the book changing bodies changing lives.
No_Independent8195

Need to see if I’m an A.

I absolutely 100% would not support any body altering operation or whatever until they were 18 and legally an adult. 

If they say they’re gay…great…have they actually crushed on someone? Had sex? Had a kiss?

They’re just kids and we’re putting adult issues on their shoulder. 

Uncomfort_able-teach

Hm. Maybe buy them a binder you know will be a little too large (“you can grow into it!”) if you’re worried about the health complications. Pick your battles, everything will be blamed on you in therapy later anyways, and not fully supporting this is a fire I wouldn’t be personally willing to go near.
StillBarelyHoldingOn

The kid is 11. They need to grow up. Keep putting your foot down. Everyone matures differently, I didn’t develop til I was 12! And once I got my period I went from flat chested girl to woman pretty fast after that. We’ve got to stop teaching our children that puberty will either make or break you.
OkPanda8627

I would sit down and discuss their concerns about developing bodies. If you don’t know the answer, consult the right doctor. Reaffirm they’re not doing anything bad. But that being informed is HIHGLY crucial. At the moment, maybe compromise to fitted workout shirts under their regular clothing?
West_Squirrel_3133

Non-binary and a binder don’t really make sense together. That’s something trans men wear to hide breasts.

I don’t know where an 11 year old would even learn of a binder but seeing how young they are I would suggest speaking to a psychologist as this is way out of reddit’s pay-grade.

unset_microwave

Even at 11 a person knows when they feel off. Stopping them could lead to them not being honest with you in the future and also cause dysmorphia when their breasts start to come in. I’d discuss it more. See their motivation behind it.
MetraHarvard

If you wind up online shopping for bras you should consider looking at TomboyX. They have all sorts of gender-neutral undergarments. I’m fairly flat and I’ve been happily wearing their sports bras for many years.
Successful_Event_457

Man, at 11 i wouldn’t have even had a thought like that much less anything else in that realm of things. No lol… can’t brush teeth etc without being told but wants to make life altering decisions? Screw that.
Longjumping_Bad_9691

im not nonbinary but i grew up and still am an extreme tomboy. id offer the idea of a new hairstyle, as well as a new shopping spree for clothes. just something to make your child feel more comfortable.
didacticly

There’s an interesting correlation to spectrum disorders and the susceptibility to the trans ideology. There’s a few research studies on the topic. Basically trans people are just confused autistics
detransitionb4death

Absolutely do not let your child wear a binder. They are significantly less safe than what many people will claim and do in fact cause damage. Ask me how I know.
Excellent-Try7027

You are the adult. You make the rules. Do not let your child emotionally manipulate you. Children see the weakness. Be the adult.
Mobile_Comedian_3206

You’re the AH for rooting her on in being gay and using alternative pronouns. You are causing her a massive amount of confusion. 
sagegreen56

Gay and trans are two totally different things. You need to talk to your child more and also get them off the internet.
SinglePermission9373

I’m going to get roasted for this, but an 11 year old is a child and doesn’t get to make these decisions unilaterally.
Kenny_Complains

Trans man here

NTA. Whilst a binder doesn’t reshape the body, wearing it irresponsibly can really hurt

LonelyDragonEgg

Maybe consider a sports bra if they are feeling self conscious. 
playdontpreach

YTA because your kid has been exposed to this bullshit
GamingWhenKidsAreZzz

Get your kids off the fucking internet, people. FFS.
Mobile_Elk4266

My guess is that a friend has started doing this tbqh
snowflakes__

How does an 11 year old even know what a binder is?
Dragomir3777

You going to fail as a parent. You need help.

Conclusion

The parent expressed immediate support for their child’s stated identity regarding pronouns but immediately introduced conditions and delays regarding the request for a binder, linking the binder decision to the child’s lack of physical development and overall responsibility level. This created a sharp emotional reversal, causing the 11-year-old to feel guilt and regret for sharing their feelings.

Given the parent’s stated commitment to safety and guidance versus the child’s immediate need for affirmation, the core question remains: At what point should parental concern over physical development and external social risks yield to a minor’s clear, immediate expression of gender identity, particularly when the initial support has already been expressed?

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