AITA for “forcing my brother and his GF to get an abortion”?

A young woman, scarred by years of cruelty at the hands of her own parents, finally found a sanctuary in the small space she called home. For the first time in her life, she felt safe, free from the shadows of pain that had haunted her childhood, a fragile peace carved out from the chaos of her past.

Then came her twin brother, still trapped in the toxic environment she had escaped, seeking refuge with his girlfriend by her side. Despite the cramped quarters and the weight of their shared history, she opened her door, driven by love and the hope that together, they might rebuild what was broken and find solace in each other’s presence.

AITA for "forcing my brother and his GF to get an abortion"?

So I’m a 24 year old who moved out of their parents place a couple years back. My parents are terrible people and we’re very cruel to me and my brother growing up. I’ve very much enjoyed the space to myself and it has been the only time in my life I’ve truly felt safe.

My twin brother (Zack ) didn’t move out and was also pretty miserable living with my parents. About 8 months ago he asked if he and his GF (Kat) could stay with me for a while, as he started school a couple years after me and isn’t financially in a place where he can afford his own place.

Knowing how shitty my parents are, and how much of a good guy and gal Zack and Kat are it really wasn’t much of a decision. I just told them to chip in when they can and as long as I’m not paying for their food or anything like that it’s chill for the time being.

Things have been fine and Zack and Kat have been nothing but respectful to me and my place. The place is on the smaller side but Zack is usually at school or work and Kat works a good amount of the time, so I’m not usually super bothered by it.

Their plan has been to love out once Zack graduates which will probably be 2023 at the rate he’s going. So I’d most likely be living with them another year and a half to two years.

Now that wasnt much of an issue to me as they don’t really have anywhere to go and I totally get not wanting move back in with out parents. The thing is tho is about a week back they revealed to me they were pregnant.

While I think it’s awesome, and am excited for them, this severely throws a wrench into out living arrangement. I really can’t deal with a baby living with us for the extended future.

I’m someone who’s very sensitive to noises and suffers insomnia. So a crying baby would literally make my life hell on Earth.

When I asked them what they were planning on doing they said they were going to keep it as Kat doesn’t believe in abortion and they feel as if they’d make good parents ( they definitely would, they’re great people) .

I said oh well congrats then! We ended the conversation there for that night.

The next day I asked them what their plans were for housing in the near future as they know about my sleeping condition and how I’d feel with a baby/toddler in the house. They said theyd have to stay here as they didn’t really have anywhere else to go.

I told them that won’t be happening for reasons stated earlier. They both got very upset and accused me of “forcing them to abort their baby”

Here’s how people reacted:

nifty-shitigator

>The next day I asked them what their plans were for housing in the near future as they know about my sleeping condition and how I’d feel with a baby/toddler in the house. They said theyd have to stay here as they didn’t really have anywhere else to go. I told them that won’t be happening for reasons stated earlier. They both got very upset and accused me of “forcing them to abort their baby”

So they know your opinion on this, and think they can just try to force you into doing what they want because ????

Also, the above paragraph is definitive proof that the following quote is wrong.

> they feel as if they’d make good parents ( they definitely would, they’re great people)

They won’t be good parents, at least not right now. Being a good person is not a guarantee that a person will be a good parent.

I’m not even sure they’re being good people right now, they’re trying to force you into financially supporting their decision to have a child, knowing how much how significantly this will lower your quality of life.

NTA.

Ecstatic-Pressure-68

fair question, if she’s working and he’s going to school where is the money going? if they aren’t paying rent and only buying food then really, where’s it going? they also can get a mega ton of government assistance to help. I think you’re NTA for only wanting to actually sleep at night when you can and it was shitty of them to bring up forced abortion when it’s not what you said. maybe you could talk to them about sound proofing the baby’s room (if not in their room) and they can just get a monitor for the baby. it would solve both problems. that’s really the only solution if they want to stay. Knowing how bad your parents are it would be cruel to make them leave so if just suggest sitting down with them and telling them you truly are excited but worried. being reasonable suggestions for accommodation to the table and try to reason. i’m sure people with insomnia have babies all the time and find way to make it work, i think you guys can too. also, it’s so cool y’all are twin, im so jealous!
SoybeanArson

NTA. I hate to say it, but it seems your brother and his gf may have learned a bit of cruelty themselves. Phrasing it that way in response to your very reasonable concerns is some pretty rotten manipulation tactics. You extended them a kindness, they decided to change the rules and take a mile out of the inch you gave them. With thier selfish attitude coming through it wouldn’t surprise me if they planned to volunteer you for babysitting duty whenever they pleased. You aren’t forcing them to do squat, they made two decisions about their future which means they need to make one more about where they will live. Don’t be bullied and taken advantage of.
Ruckus_Riot

NTA- they’re blatantly trying to manipulate you. While you can feel for their situation, they had sex and got pregnant it is THEIR decision as to what to do next. They need to figure out if they’re keeping the baby or aborting it, or adopting it out. You never once said anything about abortion m, they’re lying to try and strong arm you into whatever they want.

You need to give them an eviction notice ASAP. You didn’t mention if the gf worked or not. If not, she needs to get her ass a job ASAP, and her and your brother need to figure out their own lives.

It is absolutely not your responsibility, it is theirs only.

Consistent-Leopard71

NTA. You aren’t forcing them to do anything. They can have their baby, they just can’t do it while living with you. If their family planning is based on being able to live with you rent free for the foreseeable future, then they can’t afford to have a baby. You agreed to house them rent free for over two years, which was incredibly generous, but this is a boundary for you and they need to accept that and stop blaming you for their financial situation. Living with a baby is….a lot, especially if the baby isn’t yours. You have done nothing wrong here.

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TracyMinOB

NTA. They are choosing to keep and raise their baby. Good for them!

But that means they have to start being adults and being responsible for another person. That includes housing, food, medical, utilities…. everything that comes with being a responsible adult.

They just can’t expect to keep the status quo when they’re the ones changing the circumstances.

They need to grow up and find their own alternative. Maybe Zach needs to go to school part time and get a full time job.

Maleficent_Ad_3958

NTA. You signed up for adults not a newborn. You get to call the shots as you pay the bills. I would bluntly point out that they’re acting like they expect you to pay for the baby as well and you didn’t do any part in making said baby. You’re not forcing them to do crap. They’re choosing to create a kid but they’re doing it without being able to jack squat for it.

I frankly would try to get them out sooner than later.

Is there any way they can live with Kat’s parents?

lifetooshort4bs

NTA – you didn’t sign up for a baby. If they want to keep it, they need to be able to take care of it. If they can’t even manage a roof over their head, then they are in no position to have a baby. You are already doing them a huge favor by letting them live there pretty much for free. It’s ridiculous that they think you are obligated to continue to support them and their baby. They should have been more careful. It’s not your fault or your responsibility.
Sydneyfire

You’re “forcing” them to face the consequences of their decision to be parents by working, paying rent, health insurance, buying everything the baby needs … basically being adults. They should have money to move out as you’ve helped them save plenty. You’re excited to be an Uncle and looking forward to visiting the new addition at their new abode. Or they can move in with your parents. NTA
Academic_Snow_7680

NTA but I would be looking for housing where you can live together where the baby wouldn’t be a problem for you.

The thing is that you don’t know if, to what extent and how long the baby would be keeping you up. But unless you hate children you would probably get a whole lot of unparalleled love out of it.

Bloodrayna

NTA You’re not forcing them to abort, you just explained you can’t live with a baby. If they’re determined to keep it, they need to figure out alternative housing. If their income is low, they might qualify for benefits of some sort.
Kiwitechgirl

NTA. They’re grown adults, they can work something out, it’s not like you’ve said “you have to move out tomorrow”. They’ve got several months to find a new place. Jumping straight to abortion is rather extreme on their part.
_raq_

Sounds like they can’t afford a baby right now. You’re already being incredibly generous by giving them a free space to live, you’re not responsible for providing for a new baby that’s not yours.

NTA.

Mads_w02

NTA that’s their problem. You’ve stated your boundaries clearly and if that doesn’t match up with her beliefs then they can find another way to manage. You didn’t sign up to living with their kid
NeptuneAndCherry

NTA. Get them out. Not trying to be mean here, but with a baby to provide for, they’ll mooch off you forever, for both a place to live AND babysitting. Get them out.
CJHarts

NTA. You have helped them plenty. You have stated your completely reasonable boundaries and their claim that you are “forcing them to abort the baby” is outrageous.
jadepumpkin1984

Nta. You aren’t forcing them to do anything but find different housing. Your brother might have to change his school plans and find a full time job.

Conclusion

The original poster (OP) is facing a difficult conflict between their deep need for personal safety and peace, established after escaping a toxic home environment, and their supportive relationship with their brother and his partner. By agreeing to house them, the OP prioritized family support, but the unexpected pregnancy introduces a new, non-negotiable element—a crying infant—that directly threatens the OP’s established sanctuary and mental health.

The core debate centers on whether the OP has the right to protect their personal well-being and established boundaries from a change they did not agree to, or if their obligation to support their family overrides their need for a quiet living space, especially when the alternative suggested by the brother is abortion. Should the OP enforce their boundary now, or find an unsustainable compromise?

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