My daughters unhealthy packed lunch

A parent attended their 7-year-old daughter’s school interview and received unexpected criticism regarding the contents of the child’s packed lunch. The parent consistently packs a lunch including a yogurt, sandwich, chips, a cheese stick, and fruit, noting that the child is a very picky eater with long-standing stomach issues, making any intake a positive result.

The teacher suggested that the child’s stomach problems would improve by reducing processed foods and insisted on more fruit, despite the parent noting that uneaten fruit often returns home wasted. The situation worsened when the teacher mentioned the child claimed to eat lettuce, which the parent disputes, and then instructed the daughter directly to include fruit and reduce packaged items the next day. The parent now feels judged and questions if their efforts and small treats given to the child are inappropriate.

My daughters unhealthy packed lunch

I always pack a yogurt, sandwich, a packet of chips, a cheese stick and some fruit for my 7-year-old daughter’s lunch. Sometimes she will take a cookie/brownie or chocolate. She’s always been a picky eater and has had stomach problems since she was a baby so getting her to eat anything is a win; most of the time half the stuff is still in her lunch box.

Nearly every time I pack fruit it comes home soggy and yuck, and I feel like I’m just wasting money. So the last couple of times I haven’t worried about the fruit.

Well, the teacher decides to tell me today that her stomach problems would get better if she wasn’t eating so much processed foods and that I give her too much money for canteen, and I need to start packing more fruit even though she doesn’t eat it.

She even told her teacher she eats lettuce when I barely can even get her to eat a strand of it on a taco. I feel like I looked like the worst mum today. Then she proceeded to tell my daughter that she better see fruit in her lunch tomorrow and not so much packaged foods???

I feel like it’s a bit of an attack; some mornings I take her to the corner store to buy a little lolly because it’s something special we do after I drop my youngest two off, I even got told off for that!

Am I the asshole?

Here’s how people reacted:

Artemis9016

Well, maybe the teacher did step out of line but I think it’s from actual care about your kid and not from being malicious. As a person who grew up with some teachers who really didn’t care about me and even tried to make my life actively worse – I am glad to see someone who cares.
Now, about your daughter’s nutrition – having a picky eater child is difficult, and eating unhealthy is better than not eating at all. That being said, I think you created an environment for her that eating unhealthy is the norm and perhaps enabled if not encouraged.
My mom is a clinical nutritionist. I didn’t grow up having a lot of snacks and deserts in my house – and so I was used to eating healthy. When I did want a snack – my mom always had a healthy alternative to offer. Instead of processed food, I was snacking on veggies and fruits. She didn’t force me though, as we did always have some chocolate at ours house lol so I could choose and sometimes I did choose the chocolate. But not always! And I think that’s kinda the point. It’s ok to eat those things once in a while, but having them daily as part of your meal is unhealthy.
When you have more access to healthy food in your house rather than processed food, allow but limit the amount and access of the processed foods they can eat – your children will learn to seek the healthy food too.
Ok and now about your daughter’s stomach problems: as a stanger on the internet I don’t know your child’s medical history. But I do have stomach problems myself too. I’ve only been given an ibs diagnosis at 18 and that was only because they ruled out everything else.
There are other causes to stomach problems rather than food – it can be from stress and anxiety too for example, and from a variety of different reasons. In my case, my stomach problems started after a move. I didn’t adjust well to the social changes, had some really bad friends, I was laughed at behind my back and I was alone like 90% of the time. So after nearly two years of this new life, my stomach started cramping like crazy. I couldn’t leave my house or get out of bed for weeks at a time.
So if I was in your case I would ask myself – is my daughter having any issues in school? How’s her social life? Does she have any other anxieties?
Now as an adult I keep my stomach problems under control. How do I do it? Well, about the mental health part – I am getting both medical and psychological treatments. But it was not the only factor to stopping my stomach cramps almost completely – have you ever heard about a low fodmap diet?
It’s not a diet meant to lose weight. It only limits the variety of food you can eat, not the amount. And the point of it is to check what food your stomach is sensitive to.
At the start the variety of foods you can eat is very limited – some fruits and veggies are forbidden in it too. But then after a while you can start adding stuff back, and see which one of them your daughter reacts well to. A part of this diet though is also limiting processed foods. Now, years after I started this diet – I can eat almost everything. But processed food and very oily food aren’t things I can really eat, especially not often. I can’t eat garlic or onion or wheat too sadly, but processed foods are the absolute worst for me. I will always remember that time when I tried to drink coke after a few weeks on the low fodmap diet – it barely managed to go down my system before my body immediately rejected it.
I can eat processed foods occasionally, but not at all often. And I need to limit the amount while eating them too. This morning for example I had a lot of snacks and I did not limit the amount I was eating of them, and now at 4:34 in the morning I’m typing this comment instead of sleeping because it feels like my stomach is mad at me lol. But eating healthy and eating what’s good for my body isn’t as difficult as it sounds. I don’t really have to give up on the majority of things – there are always alternatives. Even if you decide not to put your daughter on a low fodmap diet. Your daughter likes chips – have you ever thought about trying to make them yourself with an air fryer? My mom makes french fries in an air fryer as part of healthy lunches, and it’s surprisingly not time consuming at all, and it’s crunchy and delicious. I’m not telling you to make bread from scratch – but maybe try to choose a different type of bread that is healthier and see if your child likes it. Put something filling in her sandwiches – things with protein in them, like omelets and cheese and you can put some veggie slices with it too like tomatoes and or cucumbers. I personally think that adding some veggies to the sandwiches really improves them lol.
There are some veggies that most kids likes to snack from my experience – like cherry tomatoes and soy beans for example. They’re small so they’re like a cute little snack. I honestly didn’t like fruits for many years until my parents started buying them from farmers and not from the supermarket – but even if that option is unavailable for you then veggies from the supermarket are nearly always great lol.
As far as brownies are concerned though – it’s really not something your daughter should eat on a daily basis. But perhaps change it to a cube or two of dark chocolate if she insists on eating something chocolaty as a part of her lunch? Having a bit of dark chocolate daily is miles healthier than eating brownies for lunch.
Anyways, I wish you and your daughter good luck! It’s tough raising a kid with stomach problems, and having that kid be a picky eater is probably difficult too.
It’s probably difficult for your daughter too.
I hope you manage to get over these problems together.
Feel free to text me if you want to ask more about a low fodmap diet or even ask about other food related things. I can ask my mom whatever you’d like to know. (She’s a nutritionist)
Vahva_Tahto

oof seems like you had enough feedback already, from the amount of comments. but my own two centswould be:

1. You’re not the bad guy, you just made de grave mistake of being her mum when asking her to eat fruit 😆 Kids listen to other adults telling them to do things. If this teacher is so adamant about fruit, chances are she will follow up with it and do the heavy lifting of encouraging your daughter to eat it at school, and she might. So send fruit and enjoy! 😆 I’m a teacher myself and my kids always eat their fruit, drink more water, finish their snack… things they do NOT do at home. Parents send celery and vegetables even, because they know they will eat it at school with the teachers, and peer pressure. I even had parents asking me to convince them to take medicine and do nasal rinses at home, using the reward system at school – and it works. The school is here to help you mamma, not the other way around!

2. There’s smoothie pouches, fruit jelly, fruit candy (like the hawthorne lollies, literally just berries and sugar)… these are still better options than corner shop lollies and chocolates, and a good way to shoehorn raw fruit in on a bad day

3. Cheese sticks are good protein, crisps are okay as a savoury snack sometimes, but maybe not every day as a lunch. try to figure out alternatives to vary her diet – seaweed (crispy, salty and can also be spicy/vinagrey), perhaps baked/roasted potatos?

4. It’s important that you keep your communication open with your daughter to understand exactly what doesn’t she like about something, or what is causing her tummyaches. So far it just sounds like it’s you and the teacher guessing why she is a picky eater and why she has stomach problems.

She will say ‘dunno’ if you just ask open questions, so try to teach her the needed vocabulary with yes/no or two-option questions. ‘What don’t you like about the orange? is it too sweet? too sour? is it that you have to peel it yourself and your hands get sticky? is it the white stuff around it?’. Then you brainstorm solutions for each problem – drink more water/get other types of oranges, drink more water+add a bit of sugar, maybe mum can peel it/you can take wet wipes for your hands, just eat the orange part and spit the white one out.

Kids often give up on a food because they are only offered two options – eat it as it is, or don’t eat it. but even us adults will spit out a sour/overripe blueberry, add salt and pepper to our food, use a drink to flush down something we don’t like… why don’t we provide the same options and problem-solving opportunities to our wee ones?

Even-Doughnut8643

I think as long as they have food and it’s not like gross, moldy food then it shouldn’t be a problem lol. Like if your kid has a sandwich and a few snacks for the day, I don’t see the problem ? My son is picky too so he only really eats broccoli and cucumbers when it comes to vegetables so I just pack those everyday with other snacks and a sandwich. If I gave him fruit (which he hates) I would keep throwing it out daily. I always try to look at it like this: would I as an adult like it if someone forced me to eat something that I’ve tried and that I know I hate? No, I wouldn’t like it. So, why do we force our kids? Obviously we can’t feed them processed food 24/7 but we can get creative and make healthy food enjoyable too. I make my son banana bread with ground flaxseed and other healthy ingredients thrown in so he still gets good nutrients. Moral of the story is, your child is fed and it’s none of the teachers business unless of course the child was being sent to school with no food.
ghostoftommyknocker

Teacher is so far over the line, it’s a dot to her.

She is not a doctor, dietician or nutritionist. She does not know your daughter’s medical history. She has zero qualifications or information with which to make any decisions about your daughter or even to judge her.

I have stomache issues and the medical decision for me is that I have to be very careful not to eat too much fruit per day and not to eat certain fruit.

I have IBS and it is very common for IBS-sufferers to have limit the amount and type of fruit we eat because we’re sensitive to both too much and too little fibre and what type of fibre we’re consuming.

Telling someone their stomache issues will go away can be potentially dangerous, depending on the medical condition involved.

She needs to be reported for dictating medical instructions to you about your daughter’s health when she has neither the knowledge nor qualifications to do so.

pickadillyprincess

If your child typically has a snack time before dinner that’s a great time to introduce more fruits and veggies. It takes many exposures for a child to feel comfortable eating a new or unfamiliar food. My son is allowed to have chips at home but I stopped packing them regularly in his lunch because he would only eat the chips and not the healthy things. They may not have enough time to eat during lunch at school so they’re focused on their favorites. Alternatively see if occasionally you can find “fruit substitutes” that she enjoys. Applesauce packets still have sugar but that could be a way to introduce healthy fiber for her. Clementine oranges are great for lunchboxes too because if they don’t get eaten they don’t really spoil since they’re contained in their own skin.
I’ll say NTA teacher definitely overstepped. But there are ways you can be working to improve this situation.
Love-Bitter

Tell the school to fuck alll the way off.

When my daughter was at preschool they issued a ‘non single use’ packaging rule in the kids lunches. My girlie is a picky eater and would only eat yoghurt out of a pouch. The teacher shamed her for bringing single use packing. She cried her eyes out for doing the wrong thing.

She wouldn’t let us put a pouch yoghurt in her lunch again, from that bloody day. Then decided she no longer liked yoghurt. She’s now 11 and will not touch any yoghurt at all no matter how often we get her to try it.

I’m still super pissed about the whole situation.

You do what’s right for your kid. If you believe this is the best diet she can tolerate then you’re doing your job and everyone else can mind their own business. NTA.

BusinessShine3325

As someone who is disabled partially because of GI issues, I get this. Eating is painful for me and I struggle sometimes with food I don’t like because what is the point? I’d rather just not eat. 

It’s not like your child is overeating which even if they were, so what? It’s not their business and you shouldn’t have to explain yourself or your child’s health unless they were somehow in immediate danger. When the teacher starts paying for your groceries and the medical bills for a future Eating Disorder because they couldn’t mind their own business, then maybe they can say something. 

Just keep doing what you are doing. Only you and your child know themselves and their body’s needs best. NTA.

Prior_Hope2874

I totally get the mom guilt, but you realise that the intense reaction you got on teachers comment is because the comment is totally legit. All the dieticians above telling to go eat a lollipop are also not you friends. You can push your child little by little to healthy eating, not for the teachers! For the sake of your child’s health. You got this. There are a lot of resources with recipes online. Try veg muffins, snacks, some eggs. I know it’s pain in ass to prepare but once you get the rhythm it’s getting easier.
No_University9625

NTA, but something in your post made me think…

“Well the teacher decides to tell me today that her stomach problems would get better if she wasn’t eating so much processed foods and that I give her too much money for canteen”

The ‘too much’ part suggests she might be getting a lot of junk food from the canteen and eating that instead of the lunch you are packing. These kids can go so crazy for snacks, and they don’t really get moderation yet. You should ask your kid about the snacks she is buying.

IrrelevantManatee

YTA. You pack chips & cheese sticks for a 7 yo every day ?!

I understand why the teacher that see one of her student suffering from health issues at such a young age and being fed crap would speak up and try to make thing better for this child. Children that age should eat fruits and veggies, not sugary and fried foods.

If you have fear for her health and think she has stomach issues, you need to take her to the doctor asap. Not feed her process crap and enable her to pick awful eating habits.

Aquariana25

My kids always have taken balanced lunches full of fruits and vegetables, but when they started wasting all the produce (it was coming home untouched), my husband, who packs their lunches and abhors food waste, stopped packing it. That’s when we started getting snarky commentary from school staff about “junk food lunches.” So we’re just supposed to send fresh fruit and vegetables, and even if it gets thrown away, we’re instantly amazing parents vs rubbish.
mikamitcha

NTA, but get a couple fruit cups and let your daughter know if she doesn’t want to eat them to just bring them home. Its not a bad thing the teachers are worried about your child’s health, and a six pack of fruit cups should last over a month if your kid isn’t eating it.

$4/month is well worth not having to deal with a pissy teacher, plus your kid still will have access to fruit (and you can just keep the fresh fruit at home available for her).

cavs79

I’m a little confused. What is a school interview and why did you have one in the summer?

No offense but is your daughter overweight? It could be they are worried about her health wise if she’s eating junk food and buying snacks
And junk food in the canteen.

It kind of sounds like there might be more to this story because a school to become involved in a child’s lunch seems unusual.

pyew4cket

My son was a very picky eater, too. People are so judgy, but it’s very hard when a child won’t eat. They don’t perform as well in school if they don’t eat lunch, and by the end of the school day, they are hangry. You mention your daughter has stomachaches. My son ended up having a gluten allergy. It might be worth exploring food allergies and intolerances.
Infinite-Buy-9852

You described a very large unhealthy lunch with other additions like a lolly, which is given to a 7 year old. 

It’s probably a hard truth to hear, but that’s not a suitable lunch for a young person and the likelihood is that she’ll have a difficult relationship with healthy foods for a long time unless it’s addressed when she’s young. 

Ok_Mix6856

That’s BS seriously. I would have invited the teacher to buy the fruit for the garbage cuz im not wasting my money! Your kids lunch sounds exactly like my kids lunch! He doesn’t eat much of it either. Get a good lunch pail and freezer packs. His fruit is still good by the end of the day and he eats it in the car on the way home
Nicknamewastoolong

NTA I never experienced a teacher caring for what their students have for lunch, so them playing food police sounds weird and overstepping for me. Would they rather see your daughter not eating anything?
Dealing with picky eaters is difficult and if your daughter is healthy there is no problem with what you pack her.
GromitWallace

Made out like you’ve sent her to school with 10 cans of coke. Honestly, there’s no perfect packed lunch but you’re obviously making it varied and as healthy as possible.

Teacher is way over the line and honestly should have to answer for her opinion Infront of other people, because it’s wrong – objectively wrong.

samuelp-wm

Her lunches sound great. For her stomach issues I would talk to her pediatrician about a referral to a GI specialist as well as asking for some bloodwork. Our daughter was dx with celiac sprue when she was 7 after stomach pain complaints. A simple bloodwork request for the celiac panel will give you some insight.
AccessMaterial5203

Try Apple sauce pouches, banana peanut butter sandwiches, cut apples w something dip worthy (honey, nutellla), or a straight up banana so it won’t go back if she doesn’t eat it at school. But make her eat it at home.

My kids if they come home with lunch in their lunchbox, it becomes their after-school snack.

SuspiciousStress1

NTA. I would ask that teacher for her medical degree!! When she said she didnt have one, say “oh, when suzybelle’s doctor says shes doing just fine, I will listen to him since he *DOES* have a medical degree

Im so tired of teachers that stick their nose where it doesn’t belong!!!

rmas1974

The food you are providing is high in carbohydrates, fat and sugar. It is also low in nutrients. The teacher is correct about the lunches being unhealthy but whether it is appropriate for the teacher to raise this with you wherever you are is another matter.
OleksandrKyivskyi

I am 99% sure that no one can manage to turn fresh apple soggy and yuck in 1 day. Maybe you are just putting wrong kind of fruits? And is there really no other food for every day than chips? Maybe crackers with minimum seasoning? NAH.
Hanhula

Hey OP – make sure you’re checking in with a doctor on the picky eating. Could be ARFID which is especially common when kids have stomach problems.

The teacher has massively overstepped here. I would raise it with the headteacher.

sat474

NTA. The teacher’s trying to turn you into a lunchbox police when all you’re doing is surviving picky-eater life. You know what’s important? Your daughter eats something, not what some diet guru thinks she should have.
Dolphin_Girl7

Pack a pantry stable fruit cup, or a box of raisins, or both. If it comes home, leave it in the lunchbox for tomorrow. Hopefully, it will get the teachers off of your back.

Best wishes, from a mom with a picky kid.

wrngwithmechemically

NTA. And you should have set the teacher straight about your daughter’s digestive tract issues. And to mind her own business unless she wants to pick up the time and cost of taking her to doctors.
XxSharperxX

I’ll get downvoted but IMO: I think that parents should feed their children healthy food. 85% healthy 15% treats. It’s not easy to do but it’s important and it does impact their health.
karl_hungas

I dont have a judgement but you really worded this all crazy. It sounds like your kid shows up to school with a “little lollie” and then has a lunch with chips and a brownie in it. 
DasBarenJager

“Then she proceeded to tell my daughter that she better see fruit in her lunch tomorrow and not so much packaged foods”

Or what exactly? She’s a teacher not the police.

Bornagainchola

All you can do is your best. My son doesn’t even eat his packed lunch. I just assume lunch at school is a waste. I ensure a good breakfast and dinner.
Lazy_Selection4256

Way out of line for a teacher to bring up. It doesn’t sound egregious at all.
Agreeable-Inside-632

I would ask the teacher where she got her dietician certification.
lord-beerus-90

You’re a parent shouldn’t you already know the answer to this
IJustWorkHere000c

Your kids teacher needs to mind her fucking business
safescience

NTA.

The teacher is though.  I’d complain.

calamnet2

Teacher needs to mind her own business.
Fun_Muscle9399

I would have gone off on that teacher
SyrupNext8094

It’s your child not the school’s !

Conclusion

The parent is experiencing distress and defensiveness because the teacher’s comments felt like a personal attack on their parenting skills, especially concerning their efforts to manage a picky eater with health sensitivities. The central conflict is between the parent’s practical approach to ensuring their child eats something versus the teacher’s prescriptive, potentially idealized view of nutrition.

The core question is whether the teacher overstepped professional boundaries by criticizing the parent’s food choices and directly addressing the 7-year-old about future lunch contents, or if the parent should prioritize the school’s nutritional advice despite past difficulties in getting the child to eat certain foods. The reader must weigh parental autonomy against professional educational guidance.

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