AITA for refusing to take out a loan for my daughter’s dream wedding?

The user, a parent, is facing a request from their 26-year-old daughter regarding funding for an upcoming destination wedding in Italy, which is planned to cost approximately $80,000 in total.

The daughter has saved $30,000, and the parents have already contributed $15,000. She is still short about $35,000 for desired elements like the villa rental and catering, and she has asked her parents to take out a personal loan to cover this remaining amount, promising repayment over several years. The user is hesitant due to personal financial goals, leading to doubt about whether refusing this request makes them unreasonable.

AITA for refusing to take out a loan for my daughter's dream wedding?

My daughter is 26 and getting married next year. She’s been planning this elaborate destination wedding in Italy that would cost around 80k total. She’s been saving for years and has about 30k put away, plus we’ve contributed another 15k from what we had set aside for wedding expenses.

The problem is she’s still short about 35k for everything she wants – the villa rental, catering for 100 guests, photographer, her dress, flowers and so on. She came to us last week asking if we could take out a personal loan to cover the difference.

She says she and her fianc will pay us back over the next few years.

My husband thinks we should help her out since “it’s her special day” and she’s always dreamed of this kind of wedding. He’s pushing me to agree to the loan, saying we have good credit and can get decent rates.

But I’m absolutely against taking on debt for a wedding. We’re in our 50s, still paying our own mortgage, and I want to focus on our retirement savings. I told her she needs to either scale back her plans to fit her budget or find another way to fund it.

Maybe a smaller wedding now and a big celebration later when she can afford it.

Am I really the asshole for refusing to go into debt for my daughter’s expensive wedding dreams?

Here’s how people reacted:

Opinionated6319

🐘🐘🐘 Wedding should be what a couple and/or family can afford. It should be about a ceremony for two people to commit to a life together.

Elaborate dream weddings with high dollar costs is unrealistic, often selfish, entitled, or spoiled. Daughter saved $30k, her parents kicked in $15. Unless her fiancé or his family can contribute more, she needs to use $45k and quit expecting her parents to give her a loan. Too many champagne dreams on a lesser budget becomes the primary focus and overpowers a wedding for an extravaganza event.

Off site expensive bachelorette parties, off site wedding venues
think about the poor wedding party members, what are their excessive expense to appease her dreams. What about how much guests have to pay for travel, accommodations, etc. There are many gorgeous venues, sites in the USA that would fit her budget and be more considerate to all others involved.

Social media influences aren’t about the life long commitment between two loving people, it’s about how big a splash the bride can make to impress.

Specialist_Job9678

NTA. If anyone is going to take out a loan to pay for this event, it should be your daughter and her future husband. At their ages, if they do not have the income and credit score needed to secure this loan, it is because they have not been as financially responsible as they could have been. Which means that they are likely to continue to not be as financially responsible as they could be. When they do not have the means to pay you back, you are stuck footing that bill instead of paying your own mortgage and saving for retirement.

“…will pay us back *over the next few years.*”?

They need to start acting financially responsible NOW, and wed within their means. You could still be paying off the wedding long after the ink has dried on their divorce papers. (Likely, because they will soon enough be fighting about how each other are blowing their money.)

It is an absolute no, and if your husband does not get solidly next to you on this (not behind you, NEXT to you), he is an AH.

MysteryKy

Not the asshole for not wanting to be in debt but I’m also curious as to why you didn’t at least match her in pricing. If she saved 30k on her own or with her husband then why not match her, she did the work so why not?

I also get that the brides parents should be paying for the wedding, so matching her $30k would’ve been appropriate in my eyes. Especially since she’s 26 and was even able to save $30k for her own wedding is amazing within itself. You as parents in their 50’s also knew at some point your child was wanting to get married, so preparing for that should’ve been just as essential for you as it was to her. For the remaining $20k since you can’t afford or rather don’t want to be in debt (totally understandable), then that’s when we ask the grooms parents to cover the difference.

Letterhead_North

No! NTA.

This is a chance for her to practice budgeting for what she can afford.

If her plan is to get someone else to take on this debt or even, if she’s sincere, taking on that much debt at the start of her marriage, the whole thing is very likely to go up in some very expensive flames.

If she cannot afford what she wants, she needs to reset her mind to want what she can afford.

Seriously, did she pick out a husband that will go with her decorations? Or is she sincere about wanting to share a life with a partner and celebrate it with family and friends? Not only are you NTA, but the prospective husband should take a look at the situation and start making escape plans – unless he’s just as shallow and vain, in which case they’re perfect for each other’s first spouses.

QnsParticular

I WISH my parents were still around and gifted me 15k for a wedding! I didn’t get to have one, it’s not in the budget, and I don’t care to spend on a party for people I don’t care for, since my top besties (my parentals) won’t get to be there.

NTA NTA NTA NTA. You and your husband are great parents, you’ve done more than enough. Taking care of yourselves is the biggest gift (and relief) you can give to your kids. Even if they’re weird/spoiled/make no sense/have no GD idea how LUCKY they are! Some of us are out here bawling our eyes out at the thought that we won’t see or hear from our folks ever again even for one second. Let alone crying for an extra 35K loan!

im2715

I’m sorry, but does she want a dream wedding or a dream marriage? Because starting marriage with that much debt is going to push her to nightmare territory. How will they save far ANYTHING when they first have to pay back $35K? When do they buy a house, replace an aged vehicle, have kids / pets / vacations / enjoy time without worrying about where the money will come from?

NTA. She’s ridiculous and needs ro step back and rethink if she wants a marriage or a wedding. Most folks can’t afford both.

LetterheadBubbly6540

Your daughter is absolutely crazy and highly irresponsible. I‘m sorry, but I call it what it is. The wedding is a special day, but it’s only the first in the rest of her entire married life. And she wants to start it by pressuring her parents into debt. For what? A villa in Italy? A fantasy from all the romantic films she watched? In this case she isn’t mature enough to be married. She has a lot of growing up to do. Start it with a firm and uncompromising HELL,  NO
War1today

NTA, if your daughter wants this type of wedding she and her fiancĂ© need to contribute more or find more money from his family. And if they cannot contribute more then her expectations/desires are unrealistic. You have already been generous and provided a large sum of money. Also, for what it’s worth, $80k for a wedding that you cannot afford because you are $50k short (without your contribution) is ridiculous. And to go in debt over a wedding is laughable.
AJourneyer

Hell no. I mean 80k for a wedding? This definitely sounds like a case of the wedding taking priority over the marriage.

If this is something that someone can afford without going into debt, then go for it. But if you end up taking out loans, needing gifts, and obliterating savings for it – priorities are a bit (a lot) out of whack.

No you are absolutely 100% definitely NTA

Your husband seems to be quite the pushover though.

Nay-Nay385

Absolutely NOT an AH!

Most couples regret spending a ton of money on their big day once it’s over. I would suggest scaling it back big time!

To me it’s outrageous that this young lady has the nerve to expect you to take a loan out for her wedding
 no way in h*** I would expect that from my parents. They need to stick to the budget they have or figure out this great deficit on their own.

Totally too much!

Educational-Bet-2968

As someone who isn’t married yet, even I think you are NTA. You and your husband sacrificed so much and the result was a good down payment for your house, money for a college education for your kid, and a comfortable retirement. The good credit you guys have and the possibility of getting decent rates is all because of your hardworking efforts. 45k is still an amazing amount of money for a great wedding!
LuckyNerve

NTA stand firm. The world is so crazy right now. The money she already has is plenty. 26 is a great age to learn to alter your dreams to fit your resources. Why start a marriage in debt? I’m your age- why incur debt on her behalf when you’re hoping to slow down and enjoy your life. It’s your turn. Let her “make do” with the grand sum she already has. It’s most people’s dream wedding.
Grouchy-Storm-6758

NTA.

She is concentrating on the wedding and not the marriage.

If they split up in a few years they are not going to want to pay for a wedding that ended in divorce. And you and your husband will be left holding the loan for her “Dream Wedding”.

Don’t sacrifice your future for her dreams.

Good luck

groovyfirechick

NTA. SHE is an adult. If SHE wants to go into debt for the rest of her unnecessary lavish wedding that’s on her. YOU are already giving them $15,000. That is A LOT OF MONEY as a gift towards their wedding. If she needs more money, SHE or HER FIANCÉ can take out a loan. It’s not your problem.
wazeltov

NTA

My sister had a destination wedding.

She only invited our immediate family and her husband’s immediate family. No other guests. Any body else that wanted to be part of it got a zoom link.

That’s how you make something like that work without taking out a loan. Finances come first.

Individual-Line-7553

we had an “announced elopement”! told people to meet us at the courthouse, and afterward we took the folks who showed up out for dinner. we’ve been married 47 years.
a friend of mine was still paying off bills from her first marriage when she got married the second time.
dingleberry_mustache

NTA. Absolutely don’t do it. Going into debt for one day is ridiculous and just not a smart move. I’m sorry, but your daughter is in need of a major reality check. The fact that she asked you to take out a loan for HER dReAm is honestly tacky and reeks of entitlement.
Massive-Stranger4666

NTA Who is to say they will still be married in 2 years? Then your stuck with the bill and probably your daughter back home. Tell her to plan the wedding locally so more people can attend and spend the 15k on a dream Italian honeymoon.
JMarv615

Even spending 45k on a wedding is the paramount of stupid. That could be a good down payment on a house. Under no circumstances would I take on debt to fund a wedding. What if they break up before they finish paying you back.
sadicarnot

Anyone who spends 80K for a wedding is a fool. Get married in your parents backyard for $1500, then go to Italy for the honeymoon. Use the remaining $70K or in their case $40k to buy a reasonable condo to build equity.
BuffaloNo9349

so you both raised an entitled child that is now an adult bridezilla asking for 100k, the average USA household has an estimated 8k in their savings accounts and shes out here trying to get 100k for an italian wedding.
Willow24Glass

Your daughters dream wedding is ideal for close family and friends only. Keep it small and simple. Then at home she can have a bash of a reception or do another whole wedding too.
Llien_Nad

NTA but I have to add, If you have a destination wedding, you should pay ALL travel expenses for your guests. In addition, unless you’re all multimillionaires, you’re all insane.
HamburgerInMyCoffin

NTA. I had my dream wedding for less than 5K. I know it’s a special day but no 1 day is worth going into debt for. If she wants it that bad, she can take out the loan herself.
Whole_Craft_1106

Its so sad people never really realize how dumb things are until they have already done it and its two years later.
NTA, she can take out her own loan.
Archelon_ischyros

People and their fucking elaborate destination weddings. If you can’t afford it, you can’t do it. Borrowing money for a wedding is stupid.
FUBOSOFI

Just got married. Micro wedding, $15k. My brother did last year and had a big one, $45k. I’d rather keep the $30k 10 times outta 10.
downvotethetrash

Dream weddings are stupid. It’s never going to be Pinterest perfect, it’s about the marriage and the family that come to see you.
meechmosh

Unless someone has FU money, they should not be spending FU money for a one day party. NTA. But, you may have raised one. Insane.
musesx9

$45K on a wedding in Italy is more than enough. It’s so much cheaper there (source: I was planning it for my daughter).
Bitter-Air-8760

Please don’t do this. She may be divorced in a year (not wishing this on her) and you may still be paying for this.
Charlie1986_

Absolutely Nta
your daughters “dream wedding” is the wedding she can afford..35 plus your 15
50k
Time to grow up

CelticMage15

NTA. She needs to live within her means. Spending that much on a wedding is not a good financial decision.
Otherwise-Heart1804

She can change destinations for a cheaper place but still have the wedding of her dreams
MakeMeDrink

$80k for a wedding is pure idiocy, especially if it means going into debt.
MountainMuffin1980

45k is absurd. 80k is fucking absurd. What a colossal waste of money.
Hot-Sea855

Why not get married here and honeymoon in Italy? Sounds lovely.
4133MMT

Don’t even need to read past the headline the answer is no

Conclusion

The user is emotionally conflicted, standing firm on their financial boundaries regarding taking on debt for a non-essential expense like an elaborate wedding, while their spouse supports helping the daughter realize her dream day.

Is the user acting unreasonably by prioritizing their retirement savings and current mortgage obligations over co-signing a loan for their daughter’s desired $80,000 wedding budget, or is refusing to incur debt the responsible decision?

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