My husband and I had a huge bust up and he thinks I’m the bad guy for calling the cops when he wasn’t violent. AITAH and is this a normal reaction?

The user, a 40-year-old woman, describes a significant escalation in ongoing arguments with her 44-year-old husband regarding housework. The situation reached a crisis point when the husband began throwing her clothes from drawers and cupboards onto the floor, then proceeded to empty dishes and cutlery from the kitchen onto the floor.

The husband then instructed their children to watch the destruction, briefly left, and upon returning, escalated by throwing his own clothes and the laundry basket around. Feeling scared, crying, and shaking, the user called the police, an action which her husband now blames her for, leading to his temporary removal from the home and causing conflict with their 16-year-old daughter. The user is now questioning the sudden, erratic nature of his behavior, wondering if it relates to mental health issues.

My husband and I had a huge bust up and he thinks I’m the bad guy for calling the cops when he wasn’t violent. AITAH and is this a normal reaction?

My husband (44M) and I (40F) have been arguing a lot lately over housework. Today he lost it. He started throwing all my clothes on the floor from the drawers and cupboard, he went to the kitchen and pulled all the dishes and cutlery out and threw them on the floor, and he yelled at our kids to come out of their rooms and watch what he was doing.

He went out for a walk for 10 mins to calm down, then he came back and grabbed all his clothes and threw them everywhere, and the laundry basket and threw that everywhere. By this stage I was crying and shaking and scared and I called the police.

I was also recording all of it. He stopped when I called police and I told them not to come but they did anyway. When they arrived, most of the clothes and dishes had been cleaned up (by the kids).

When they questioned him, he said I’ll show you exactly what I did and threw all the clothes and dishes all over the floor again in front of police and told them I needed to clean it up.

He was argumentative and laughed and told them he wasn’t listening to them when they told him to stop talking over them and that it’s his house and he’s not being violent and they can’t kick him out which is exactly what they did.

They told him to pack his stuff and leave and he walked into our room and got undressed and started to shower with the police present and the door open. They waited for him to finish showering and pack up and he blasted loud offensive music when he got in the car and drove off.

All of this stuff is out of character and I find it really erratic. He can be loud and impulsive due to his adhd but not like this. I spoke to a friend who is divorcing her husband due to his bipolar and she noted some similarities so now I’m not sure if there are some mental illness issues.

He is blasting me for calling the cops when he is a ‘peaceful person who would never be violent’ and has told the kids it’s all my fault because I called the cops over something non violent and now he can’t see them and my eldest (16F) is yelling at me that her dad would never hurt anyone and I overreacted.

How would you deal with this?

Here’s how people reacted:

Lybychick

As a survivor of similar behavior from a spouse, you are not over reacting and calling the law was appropriate.
If this is a first incident, it is unlikely to be the last. Behaviors like this escalate without intervention.

My former spouse had a history of depression but I hadn’t seen his mania until we’d been married for awhile. He started taking a prescription medication for weight loss and it changed his personality. He began to exhibit mood swings and started throwing things. Because he was “calmed down” by the time anyone besides me and the kids were around, nobody else saw it and reacted. I thought it was my fault because it only happened with me. Years later I found out it also happened in the car with my son.

What frightens me the most in your description is his response to the cops. Most abusers chill out and get very charming when the authorities are called because they are in control of their behavior and don’t want to go to jail. His irrational behavior continued and he’s fortunate he’s got some privilege of some kind going on or his ass would have gone to jail instead of just leaving.

IDK if it’s mental illness, medication, a brain tumor, or just a mental crisis of some sort that’s pushed him into irrationality, but it is not your housekeeping skills or some inadequacies from you and the kids.

Please seek the assistance of a trained therapist from a domestic violence shelter…you need someone who knows your needs, rights, and experiences. You need a professional in your corner to remind you that he can’t come home until he gets help. Your kids need protection so they don’t normalize this behavior and internalize the responsibility. Your extended family and friends need to STFU unless they are actually being helpful, and a therapist can help you set those boundaries.

You and your husband did not have a bad argument. Your husband is having a mental health crisis that endangers you and your children. NTA

phred0095

You handled this correctly.

In particular calling the police was correct.

Look we’ll get frustrated we all get angry. Adding every human being at some point in their life feels the urge to lash out and just do something whether it’s a punch a wall or call Aunt Martha fat. But we choose to exercise self-control. It’s as responsibility as adults to keep it under control at all times. I can remember I was 6 years old when I first was able to keep a grip keep a handle on my emotions despite the situation.

Throwing everything all over the place like that is hurting someone. Trying to fit like that getting emotional to the point where your spouse gets terrified and calls the police is causing harm.

Your kid is blaming you because frankly it’s easier and safer to blame you than to acknowledge that Dad is violent and a tiny bit psycho. Think about it it’s infinitely preferable to say that you overreacted than to deal with the reality of Father’s Behavior being very problematic.

In short you did not overreact. Your actions were entirely appropriate.

GrammaBear707

NTA and yes he didn’t get physical with you but his action were absolutely violent. Your daughter needs to understand levels of domestic abuse exist and will likely escalate. His actions were also disrespectful to you and the children not to mention his irrational behavior when the police were there. Whether or not he is bipolar or has some other mental health issues is irrelevant. It may explain his behavior but it doesn’t justify it. Unless he understands what he did was wrong and seeks help I wouldn’t feel safe around him either and I certainly wouldn’t let him around my kids if I could legally stop him. He is trying to gaslight you and your kids by absolving himself of the consequences of his own bad behavior by blaming you. If housework is causing issues between you and husband to the point of this kind of escalation it seems that there are other problems in your marriage that are not being addressed so if you want to save your marriage you both need to go to marriage counseling.
Delnordo

Throwing stuff around and breaking things IS physical violence and is intended to intimidate you into submission. The chance are good that it will escalate over time. That he doesn’t get that means he is in denial. He is modeling this behavior for your daughter, who already considers it acceptable, as she likely will in her own relationships down the road. And she doesn’t know what he would “never do.” She needs to get into counseling and you and your husband need to as well. It’s possible to save this marriage, I suppose, but not if he feels justified in his irrational, erratic and violent behavior. Make a plan for a quick escape in the meantime.
As for the house cleaning, why is it all on you? Do you work outside the home? Even if you don’t, a marriage is a partnership, not an employee/employer relationship. If you both work outside the home, maybe it is time to get some help in with the cleaning. It’s totally worth it.
fitchick1126

Ummm, he was in fact violent. Throwing stuff out of cabinets and drawers, making a scene 3 different times IS violent. As someone who lived in a DV relationship, I’m sure he’s probably done more you’re conditioned/groomed to think isn’t abusive when in fact it is. Not all abuse is “violent” either.

You better look back at what your kids are seeing as “love” because your relationship with your husband is the catalyst for what they will think is normal in a relationship.

Sometimes these things ramp up for years before the mask slips off. Definitely reach out to the counselor that specializes in domestic violence. Your husband was violent, knows that wasn’t a peaceful way to handle a disagreement and showed his true colors to the police officers as well.

You did the right thing by calling the police and now there’s a record of his abuse started. Don’t let him tell you YOU did something wrong, HE did.

xksla

What he did was not peaceful in the slighteat. What he did was DV, even if the physical actions weren’t done directly on your person. Also, remember that DV isn’t just physical.

This is beyond AITAH territory. You genuinely need professionals to assist you and you need to get your and your kids out of there quick. His actions and reactions are huge red flag. So is your daughter’s reaction. That’s a huge, glaring, red neon flag. Your daughter has learnt that this type of violence against women and children is acceptable and isn’t a big deal and that genuine and completely normal reactions to said violence is “overreacting.” If nothing else gets you to run and not walk to get you and your kids to safety (and therapy), your daughter’s thinking should be the one that gets you to move.

sdbinnl

YTA – Im sorry what part of ‘he called the kids in to watch him’ did u miss????? Do you really want your CHILDREN to see their father as this type of role model.? A model where he threatens, demeans, screams, yells at a woman, the mother of his children and destroys your home.

I dont care if he is ADHD or whatever letters you want to find. If he does not deal with this you need to get out NOW and try and help your children get over his bad behaviour. This is not just about you any more.

You dont know if he would hurt you because he has not been this way before but he is now. Get him out, tell your 16 year old she is going to therapy because she is not old enough to understand and need to, and you, you need therapy as well as a new life.

Cosimo_the_Tired

“I would never be violent” –> proceeds to be violent towards everything in the house that’s not a living thing.

Violence doesn’t just mean hurting another person. Verbal threats are a form of violence. Physical threats are a form a violence. Hitting, breaking, throwing things is a form of violence.

By your account he was EXTREMELY violent – just because it wasn’t directed at you doesn’t make it violence, and his behaviour was incredibly abusive towards both you and the kids.

You did the right thing calling the police, and frankly, I would seek a restraining order and divorce immediately. That sort of behaviour has no place in a healthy family life.

DotCottonCandy

NTA. You did the right thing. All of this was totally unhinged and I would be very frightened. His bad behaviour even continued in front of the police so who knows what his limits are?

It’s not your job to worry about his mental issues, it’s his. You concentrate on keeping you and your children safe. It’s hard for your children to reconcile the dad they love with this behaviour so I understand why they might think you overreacted, but one day they’ll get it.

cgf13

NTA. Ignore the people saying you were in the wrong for recording. If you were recording a ‘peaceful incident’ then it really shouldn’t be that incriminating, should it?

But if you asked me to describe a peaceful environment, it probably wouldn’t include someone screaming and throwing things.

His behavior was truly unhinged, and the fact that he did it with the police there shows that he doesn’t care for consequences.

Jolly-Bandicoot7162

He didn’t need to be violent towards a person to be violent. His actions were violent, out of character and therefore they scared you and you didn’t know what out of character violent thing he may do next. You were justified in calling the police, and I hope you can get this through to your 16 year old, and to your husband when (if) he calms down and is more like his usual self. NTA.
WAugustusBrownJr

This is what physical intimidation and abuse looks like. If you would not tolerate similar behavior from a stranger, you should not tolerate it from someone who says they love you. People have every right to be safe in their own homes and not intimidated, even from a spouse.I would not give up power by tolerating this type of abuse
ZombieJesusSunday

That’s a manic episode with indirect violence. Huuuuuuuuuge red flag. Men are especially dangerous in a manic state cause we are generally bigger & stronger. I would divorce him if he doesn’t change his behavior immediately upon arriving home. He’s going to do that again, if he doesn’t manage his mental health & behavior asap
MajorAd2679

Your husband obviously doesn’t know what it means to be violent. He had violent actions, throwing everything on the floor. Violence isn’t just hitting you. Your husband is abusive.

He needs to go to therapy before coming back in the home near the children and you.

MrLazyLion

NTA. His behaviour is scary as hell and the fact he’s got your 16F on his side is very worrying. Make sure you record every encounter with him from now on. He is most definitely going to gaslight you with everything he’s got.

Safety first.

Always_on_top_77

This isn’t how it starts, it’s been worrying you for a while, hasn’t it? This is escalation. Please look for some resources to help you with a long term plan, because I am legit concerned for your and your kid’s safety. Nta
Character_Panda_3827

100% the asshole. Just cause he acted like an ass doesn’t mean that you didn’t. There was zero reason at all to call the cops. I’m genuinely flabbergasted they even responded let alone how quick it was.
MommaSnarky

NTA

Friend. This is abuse. It is so hard to see it when you are in it. I’ve been in it. Do not stay with this man and do not believe his gas lighting that you overreacted. You did not overreact.

Quiet-Hamster6509

NTA. While he was not physically abusive, he created an emotionally unstable environment and actively sought to get the children involved and watch him.
It’s best he does not come back.
anaisaknits

NTA and you definitely handled this correctly. Throwing dishes is violence. You need to sit your daughter down and explain that this violence. I think you and your kids need therapy.
Delicious-Papaya-389

Also keep notes of how and when he is alienating the kids against you (ie your daughter shifting the blame away from him and unto you for calling the cops because you felt unsafe)
Mysterious_Win_2051

To be honest, this is a half ass story which makes me think it’s wayyyyy more that we are missing. You say you two were arguing and jumped right to him throwing things.
Beneficial_Memory413

NTA -He WAS violent. Sure, he didn’t hit you, but he absolutely intended to scare and intimidate you into submission. You made the right choice calling the police.
Douchecanoeistaken

First and foremost, ADHD is a disability. It also makes it *very* likely that he has a secondary diagnosis that’s been missed.

He needs a neuropsych evaluation

PhilosophyCareless88

This is probably a bit above reddit’s paygrade and i would recommend talking to someone versed in domestic violence to properly assess your feelings. 
SadDadFeelsBad

If you switched the genders reddit would be defending your husband… so maybe talk to an actual licensed human and not the wet noodles on here.
leMasturbateur

INFO: Did you call the police because you thought he would do something illegal, or did you call the police to resolve the argument for you?
FeuRougeManor

The kids cleaning up shows they have been groomed into thinking this was acceptable and probably have ptsd. Definitely need counseling. Nta
Strange_Turtle

Coming from an abusive household, you did the right thing.
Now comes the hard part of not letting him come back and repeat the pattern.
LaughDarkLoud

lmao. Asshole or not, you killed any possible future reconciliation by calling the police. May as well just divorce at this point
_s1m0n_s3z

How many blows does he think you should let him get in, before he is officially violent and you can call the cops? NTA.
Big-Meringue394

i was with you until the point where you started recording him, thats preplanung an exit strategy
Gatsby520

Nothing “normal” about a relationship that features “huge bust ups” and someone calling the cops.
Creationisfact

ADHD’s are a pain and best avoided.

I’m inclined ot think ADHD is simple demonic possession.

Georgi2024

If you were scared, you were right to call the cops. He doesn’t then tell you what to feel.
Plan2LiveForevSFarSG

Talk to a lawyer. Your first duty is to protect your children.
CrookedTree89

Why the fuck are you coming to Reddit with this lol
CarsonJX

He was behaving like a woman. ESH.

Conclusion

The original poster (OP) is in a difficult emotional position, struggling with fear, confusion over her husband’s erratic actions, and facing backlash from her eldest child who defends his father’s character. The central conflict is between the OP’s necessary action to ensure safety by involving the authorities, and her husband’s perception that she has maliciously ruined his life over a non-violent disagreement.

The core question for consideration is whether the husband’s extreme behavior stems from unmanaged issues like ADHD, a potential undiagnosed mental illness, or a deliberate, albeit destructive, expression of anger. Should the OP prioritize her immediate safety and the implications of his actions, or should she accept his narrative that he is a peaceful person who was severely provoked by a call to the police?

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