My date asked for me to pay for a free meal and I refused.

The original poster (OP) met a man for a first date at a restaurant he selected. Upon arrival in the parking lot, the man had a work-related box and then disappeared for about 15 minutes, leaving the OP to sit alone at the table. When the man returned, they socialized for 30 minutes before ordering, meaning the OP had waited 45 minutes with only water before eating.

During their conversation, the man disclosed that he trades his sales goods for free meals at the establishment, meaning neither party was expected to pay a traditional bill. After the date, the OP decided there was no romantic connection and informed the man she would not see him again. The man then demanded that the OP pay for her half of the meal, claiming it was customary for a woman who ends things after one date, leading to the OP’s confusion over financial responsibility.

My date asked for me to pay for a free meal and I refused.

I went to go meet a guy for a first date at a restaurant that he chose. We met in the parking lot and he had a medium sized box with him. When I asked what it was he said that it was work related and the restaurant owners were clients of his.

He was a salesman for something. He disappeared for about 15 minutes while I was being seated. It was a bit awkward to be sitting at the table alone for the first 15 minutes while he double booked our date with work.

When we sat down, we chatted a lot. He wasn’t ready to order for the first 30 minutes we were at the table. I decided to be a good sport about it, even though I had been sitting at the table now for 45 minutes and hadn’t ordered anything but water yet.

During the chatting, he admitted to me he trades goods for free meals at the restaurant. If for example the goods he is selling is worth $100 retail, the restaurant will give him a meal worth the same.

He said that the cost of the goods are much lower than the actual retail price, just as the cost to the restaurant for the meal is lower than the menu price. It made sense.

We ate, and for a few reasons other than the meal trade, I had decided we weren’t rightfor one another. The following day when he texted me, I let him know that I didn’t feel a spark, and I would not be seeing him again.

He then told me I owed him money for my half of the meal. He said it was customary if a woman decides it’s a 1 time thing to have paid for her own meal. I would (sort of) agree, but in this case, he didn’t even pay for the meal at all, so I’m not sure…

Here’s how people reacted:

Thistime232

NTA. I could go with the obvious reason that he didn’t actually pay for the meal, so he’s asking to profit off the date. But there’s also the fact that I’ve never heard of this custom that a woman pays for her own meal if she decides she doesn’t want a second date. At the very most, you could pay him for half of what he paid for the goods that he gave to the restaurant to get a free meal, but honestly I wouldn’t even do that, I would just say goodbye and move on.
Global_Research_9335

Split the bill / pay for yourself on a first date. If the bill comes after your activity, such as with a meal, then ask for separate cheques l if you don’t intend to see them again. The person who asks the other on a date – pays. If you do want to see them again and they pay then you can say something like “I’ll pick up the bill next time” it signals you are interested and not out for a freebie
Pikelets_for_tea

There was no bill from the restaurant and I wouldn’t trust any post-meal invoice or calculation he comes up with now. He’s salty that you don’t want to see him again and is making up this shite about a single date rule. Block his number. At least you now have a(nother) bizarre dating story to tell friends.

I wonder if he’s stealing these swap goods from his employer?

ProfessorDistinct835

Isn’t he out his cost for the item he traded? So it’s worth $100 and he paid $50 for it, he could theoretically ask you for half of the $50. I mean theoretically because that is next level gall in my view.

Up to you how you proceed, but NTA either way.

AnswerMost9146

This is weird all around for me. Bartering for your meal? Nah, he was washing pots and pans back there for 15 minutes. I think not seeing him again was smart,. This guy is sketchy or i watch too much true crime.
avid-learner-bot

OP, sounds like you’ve got yourself a bit of a pickle here. I mean, who trades goods for a free meal on a date and then expects their ‘date’ to pay up? Nonsense, if you ask me. You did good, walking away from that one.
Several_Vanilla8916

Years ago I worked with a guy who was stealing toner from the mailroom and selling it on eBay. It sounds like your guy has managed to avoid any kind of paper trail. Good for him.
Iphacles

That all sounds weird as hell, but asking for money just because you didn’t want to continue dating is hilarious. NTA – Just block him and move on. Definitely a funny story tho.
gledr

Very weird situation but id say if you agreed about paying for your half i’d say you can pay him half the value of the goods he said are cheaper than the value of the food?
ImAnNPCsoWhat

NTA. Weird situation. He was rude from the get go by making you wait, he could have set the date time for later so you wouldn’t have to sit there hungry. 
MorriganNiConn

NTA
Tell him no and if he pushes, tell him to take you to court for it. I’m sure the judge will be happy to see a guy wanting money from a free meal.
Upbeat_Afternoon_621

“He said it was customary if a woman decides it’s a 1 time thing to have paid for her own meal” I’ve never heard of such a thing. NTA
Mother_Search3350

What you need to do is block that man…

If you ever see him walking towards you on the road, cross to the other side and run away 

nottobetruffledwith-

NTA. It’s only customary for him because he probably doesn’t make it passed the first date with most women.
Neg_Vibe-BigSmile

Imma guessin he is shopping in the company supply closet for those trade items…not the AH you owe him squat
GloomyIndependent242

NTA. You don’t owe anything for a meal he got from a trade. His logic is as cheap as his dating habits!
pinkfootthegoose

NTA. Tell him that you already traded your time with him and if anything he still owes you money.
bass-77

What a cheep ass. A life with him will mean one take out fish fry and two forks in your future.
Blue_Etalon

30 minutes into this disaster date I’d be headed to my car or an uber to head home. NTAH
K8r0cks

I would just send back laugh emojis because this guy is a top notch comic 🤣🤣🤣
Mountain-Ad-5793

Block him or even cannon ball him to the moon to save rest of the sisters time
Big_Board4538

Lol sounds like this is a racket he uses to get money , just block his ass
Strange_Depth_5732

So he takes women on dates he doesn’t pay for and then charges them?
Turbulent_Ebb5669

Never heard of that payment rule before. Least your dodged.
Lucky-Individual460

NTA. He sounds like a real prize. Block him and move on.
ZonitaBonOx

NTA. He used your date as a free meal loophole. Next.
der_grosse_e

NTA . It’s customary to ignore requests like that.
oldandworking

NTA, he is a putz……….enjoy life, block him
Knightshade_360

NTA. Now you know why he’s still single.
Visible_Nerve_4031

Wow what a pussy, tell him he’s a pussy
Low_Monitor5455

NTA. Just block and ignore. He’s rude.
Anboomask

This dude sounds like a con artists.
__mac____

you better not pay him a damn dime
glutenfreemaccas

Just write “lmfao” and block him
Santos_L_Halper_II

NTA. The dude is a total weirdo.

Conclusion

The core conflict revolves around differing expectations regarding payment for a meal during a first date, especially when the arrangement involved a trade rather than a direct purchase. The OP felt no obligation to pay because the man never incurred a cost himself, viewing the situation as a mutual experience where no money was exchanged. The man, however, seems to be applying a social rule about ending dates prematurely, despite the unique circumstances of the restaurant trade.

The question for debate centers on whether a social custom of paying one’s way upon ending a date applies when the initiator of the date has already secured the meal entirely through business trade, effectively making the meal ‘free’ for both parties outside of the trade agreement. Should the OP pay for her half, or is the man’s demand invalid given he never received a bill?

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