My Wife Called My Son’s Girlfriend Not Good Enough Because Of Her Race So I Called Her Out

A 53-year-old white man, is dealing with a significant conflict between his wife of 30 years, Naomi (Japanese), and his 28-year-old son, Kyle, over Kyle’s girlfriend, Dani, who is Black.

The conflict escalated during a dinner where Naomi criticized Dani’s appearance and behavior based on social media posts, ignoring her academic achievements. When Kyle confronted his mother, the situation boiled over, leading Kyle to aggressively tell Naomi to leave. The OP sided with Kyle, harshly confronting Naomi about her perceived racism and hypocrisy, leaving her deeply upset and isolated. The OP now questions if he was too harsh in defending Dani and confronting his wife.

My Wife Called My Son’s Girlfriend Not Good Enough Because Of Her Race So I Called Her Out

I 53 M am white. My wife of 30 years Naomi is Japanese. We have three kids. This story focuses on my oldest son Kyle 28.

When Kyle first got to college he began dating a Japanese girl and when he introduced her to my wife, Naomi loved her. They didn’t end up working out. But for the past three years, my son has been seeing Dani, a black girl.

My son was in medical school across the country and he ended up meeting Dani because they both were volunteers at a soup kitchen. I remember the first time he sent a picture of her, my wife immediately didn’t like her.

I’m going to try to phrase this without sounding ignorant myself. But she looks like the urban black girl most think of when African American women. She has the big hoop earrings, the long nails, the long eye lashes.

I think she looks stunning, but I’ve never been in a situation where I was involved in African American culture.

Recently my son moved back to our city for residency and Dani moved with him and started law school. They were staying in a Air bnb, while looking for a place and this week they finally found one.

So they invited us over for dinner.

Dani cooked soul food and this stuff was amazing. I complemented her food and my wife gave me the side eye. Naomi then pulled out her phone and asked Dani why does she dress like that and why was she twerking in public.

Kyle asked my mom what her problem was, I then took the phone to scroll through Dani’s instagram. And while she did have some videos of her having fun, she also had plenty of pictures of her a academic achievements.

Before Dani could answer I told my wife Dani is young and having fun. I asked did she see that Dani graduated Cum laude or all the times she volunteered. My wife looked angry that I would bring that up.

Naomi then said that she thinks that Dani isn’t good enough for our son.

Dani then asked why Naomi loved Kyle’s ex so much. She didn’t graduate with honors, she has many different boys that she posted on social media. Dani then said it’s evident the reason Naomi doesn’t like her is because of her race.

Naomi doubled down and said so what. I’ve never heard Kyle even disrespect his mother but he told her to get the fuck out. Naomi left crying.

In the car on the ride home I asked her what was her problem. She asked why didn’t I defend her. I said because she was being a racist and a hypocrite and she’s acting just like her parents.

Her parents didn’t like me because I was white.

She just said it’s different and was just silent on the way home. And when we got to the house she locked herself in the room and started crying.

I can’t feel bad for her because if someone disrespected my wife the way she disrespected Dani I would have absolutely did the same exact thing Kyle did. But Aita because I was also harsh towards her in this situation.

Here’s how people reacted:

Catfish1960

If LW’s wife doesn’t cut it out, she’s going to lose her son and access to any kids they may have. I’ve seen this in my friend circle and it’s ugly. One friend’s dad divorced his wife of many years because of her hatred of her Mexican American boyfriend turned husband. Friend cut off from her marriage and then their kids (who were the only grandkids as her brother and wife absolutely didn’t want them and also moved to Europe for his job). Her mother was furious as she felt she was owed access. Well, dad got access, not mom which made it worse. He loves friend’s hubby and they share a lot of interests but mom is off limits. Mom finally told dad it’s them or me. He chose them. LOL
Lizzydeathstar

NTA. I’m glad your son told your wife to GTFO because she was being horrid.
I would give her some time to reflect and then have a calm, serious talk with your wife. They’ve been together for 3 years, and this girl is in law school, and they met volunteering. She’s clearly bright and career driven. But ALL of that aside – does she not trust your son to pick a decent person as a partner? I would remind her how her parents treated you and how it probably drove the 2 of you away. Ask her if she wants the same to happen here. I hope she recognizes her behaviors and decides to change them.
Friendly-Farmer-4844

YTA… you’re wife is TA too (to Dani and Kyle) but you’re the AH to her because you could support and understand her; people are allowed to have preconceived notions and preferences.

So while it is the way she feels/thinks and can’t help it and you could be kinder and understand her or at least talk it out, she should never be mean to Dani.

Meaning Dani and Kyle have a valid reason to be angry with her but not you.

People should be allowed to feel how they feel with their spouse- politically correct or not. If you disagree, you should still accept her.

Leeward_bound

You’re a good man. Asians are conditioned to be very receptive of white people (like a trophy) and very mean to black people. and this is the norm. My mom also falls in this category, and I also fell in that category up until my mid twenties. Very ashamed of my perceptions back then. The thing that usually breaks the ice is for her to eventually see Dana has a person and not as a race but this too is problematic and Dana might never want to entertain naomi again. Which is fair.
TicoSoon

NTA
For me personally, I could not stay married to a racist. Note that I am NOT telling you to leave your wife. That’s your decision.

But consider your next moves carefully. If Kyle sees you stand with your wife, it will be clear that you’re as racist as she is. (Because you would be.)

If you truly want to support your child and be an ally to people of color, namely your potential DIL, this is the time for you to find a spine and stand up for what’s right.

Forward_Mammoth6207

NTA – I hope you two can work through this and I hope your wife can make the changes necessary to help your family move forward as a unit.  And poor Dani.  This situation was bad, and I think you’re on the right side of it.  I assume your wife is a mostly reasonable person, give her some time to process through it and hopefully she gets her stuff together, but good on you for being on the right side of it.
ComprehensivePut5569

NTA – Your wife is a racist AH and needs to be called out for it. Racists don’t deserve being treated gently and they should be shamed at every opportunity. I have no sympathy for your wife. Good for you and your son for standing up for Dani. Don’t let up on her either. Your wife can decide if she wants to continue to be a racist and risk losing her son or become a good person. Ball is in her court.
n0tadoctorssh

NTA. As an Asian who has dated a black person the double standards amongst Asians and skin color blew me away. Black women are honestly so inspirational and if your wife can’t see past her racial prejudices I don’t blame your son if he decides to go LC or NC in the future. Why is your wife okay with being married to you compared to Kyle loving Dani?
anaisaknits

NTA. Hatred is never ok no matter from which direction, and to treat Dani that way is disgusting. Why would she think anyone would defend racist behavior? She needs some serious soul searching to do. Double down and don’t let up, but she’s about to lose her relationship with her son Kyle.

She owes Dani an apology and then on to Kyle, then you.

Curious-Finding-172

NTA she is literally stepping over the very highest accolades to find something negative about her. Her aim is to justify why she doesn’t like her so she doesn’t have to acknowledge her prejudice against her for being black. We are ALL made in God’s image she needs to learn to judge people based on principle, not pigment.
SavvyMaverick

I mean, NTA for this situation. But marrying into the product of a racist household and expecting that person not to exhibit the same traits at some point towards another group is naivete at best. I’m sure your son takes after you more than your wife, but I hope Dani gets away from him before she has to make JNMIL posts.
Frozefoots

NTA.

If she doesn’t like being called racist, there’s a neat thing she can do to prevent it.

It’s called “stop being racist”. It actually is very simple. Either that or face losing contact with her son and (if they want to) any kids they may have.

Bizarre_Protuberance

This is exactly why racists are so goddamned annoying. They *instantly* flip the switch from bullies to whining victims.

White racists do this all the time, hence the bubbling rage over “wokism”, which they see as an attack upon themselves.

CostFickle114

NTA. Your wife is an asshole and deserves to be called out.

**Just to be very clear to you though, Dani doesn’t need to graduate summa cum laude or anything else to deserve being treated with respect!**

Hooliken

This reads like a race baiter’s “Letter to Penthouse” Pure fantasy race porn.

I am a white guy who married and procreated with a woman more racist than me.

YTA for making this shit up.

Muss_ich_bedenken

NTA

You did the right thing and held up a mirror to her.

You’re not wrong and she’s effectively admitted to being racist.

Hopefully or perhaps a thought process will begin.

Deep-Age-2486

I can’t stand people who try to tell others not to date outside of their race. Oddly enough, most if not all of the people I’ve come across that share this mindset were Asian.
Fatso-san

She’s super racist you’re somewhat racist but not too bad. Your son’s right in kicking her out. If your wife keeps with the bullshit you’ll BOTH end up losing your son.
doblehuevo

NTA. Your wife needs to ask herself if she wants to have a relationship with your son. If so, she needs to acknowledge her mistake, apologize, and change her ways.
Accomplished-Emu-591

NTA. Your wife needs to understand that she is a typical racist. I’m happy for your son’s relationship. I hope your wife’s behavior doesn’t sabotage it.
Leeward_bound

But did she explain why it is different? I am so amused and curious. I have similar parents and their mental gymnastics has great entertainment value.
Sea_Marble

NTA. I wish you had asked her how it was different and to explain to you why her parents not liking you was racist, but her not liking Dani is not.
JTBlakeinNYC

NTA. Not to pry, but you’ve obviously been with your wife for 20+ years. How is it possible that you didn’t know she’s virulently racist until now?
Active-Designer934

NTA but no one, even people who are, reacts well to bring called racist. That stuff runs deep. She will need a lot of love and care to face it.
Southern-Influence64

I have a friend whose mother is Asian. He told me his mother once told him that Asians are the most bias of all groups against other races.
Salty-Tip-7914

You called your wife “my mom,” which makes me question the validity of this post. But just in case you’re being truthful, NTA.
Snowkat666

NTA

Sadly this isn’t an isolated incident. Non-black POC tend to be pretty racist towards black people (obviously not all).

Cannie5

Is this a true story really?

Your wife may sound racist but you sound infatuated with your son’s girlfriend’s “exoticness”.

Fubaryall

Absolutely NTA! I love how you called out her bullshit! I hope your son and gf appreciate you standing up for them!
Upbeat_Vanilla_7285

NTA but if your wife doesn’t see her mistakes then your marriage is over. Else you’ll alienate your son.
Extra-Visit-8385

NTA. I am mixed race (part Japanese). Racism is real and intense in Japanese American culture.
Dry_Ask5493

NTA. Your wife is a racist and needs to do some reflecting and apologizing.
chez2202

NTA.

You stood up for your son and for Dani. You did the right thing.

Standard_Tip7060

NTA. Hopefully, your wife will see her error and come around.
Introverted-Observer

Nta but your wife is. Feel sorry for your son and Dani.
Interesting-Tip-4850

Let her sulk a bit. I hope she can turn this around.
anneg1312

NTA… I hope your wife opens her heart and eyes
shockjockeys

NTA and honestly no further explanation needed
Giantess-Lover98

Your wife needed the mirror held up to her

Conclusion

The core issue revolves around the clash between Naomi’s ingrained cultural biases and expectations for her son’s partner, and the OP’s firm stance against what he perceived as hypocritical and racist behavior directed at Dani. While the OP feels justified in supporting his son and Dani, he is conflicted about the harshness of his own words toward his crying wife.

The fundamental question remains whether the OP crossed a line by responding to his wife’s alleged racism with equally harsh personal attacks, or if such a strong reaction was necessary to defend Dani and establish a boundary. Readers must weigh the justification for confronting prejudice against the impact of the delivery on a 30-year marriage.

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