
Me and my 3 best friends (all white males) from high school all decided we would fill out our college applications together after school one day. We wanted to go to college together so we chose 3 schools that we would like to go to (within reason).
We all are in the exact same extra curricular activities together (clubs, sports etc..) and we all have very very similar SAT scores and GPAs. My GPA and SAT score are both the lowest of the 4 but just barely.
As a spur of the moment decision, I decided that I would put down African-American, as my race when in fact I am white. I didnt tell my friends at the time. I did this on all three applications that I filled out.
The last two weeks we all started getting letters back from the schools which are fairly hard schools to get into. I got accepted into ALL 3 Schools, and all 3 of my friends got denied from ALL 3 schools.
I have the lowest GPA and SAT score of the group, and no other differences on the application, Except that I lied about my race to say that I was a minority and they did not. Im not sure yet if I am going to go to one of these schools, but I just thought I would share this as i’m quite baffled right now.
Conclusion
The story ends with a stark, unexpected divergence in college acceptances, leaving one friend bewildered by his success and his three best friends facing rejection. What started as a unified dream has shattered into a reality defined by an applicant’s controversial choice and its profound consequences.
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I know that the hivemind hates affirmitive action and any minority based scholarships so this seems like a very obvious troll thread to me…
But I would like to point something out. Hate me all you want but, I went to school in an inner city high school. IN this place, tons of kids could barely read or do their multiplication tables. The school was poor as fuck, the teachers didn’t give a fuck, everyone assumed we’d all be in jail one day, and you had to do almost nothing to get by. Late in life, I realized there exist private schools in really rich areas. Kids there take all range of science courses in high school: physics, chemistry, shit even calculus, etc. On top of that the whole school is expecting them to not only go to college but to be successful. Now if there was a kid from a private school like that up against a kid who went to *my* old high school, and they both had the same SAT scores, achievements, etc., I would be far more impressed by the kid from my high school. Why? Because they had to teach themselves, figure shit out on their own, and they still did just as good. I think they have something more is all
What were the schools/programs within the schools, if you feel comfortable saying, and what were your grades, scores, extras, volunteer work? (I could imagine not wanting to reveal the schools, but there’s no reason not to say your grades, scores, and extra-curriculars.)
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Or prove it.
Affirmative action is trying to make life fair for people who are *generally* born into harder situations. But race seems like an arbitrary quality to base this equalization on.
1) Why not give preferential treatment to all ugly people?–you KNOW they have a rough life. Being beautiful gives you a hell of a lot more advantages in this world than being white does. Why can’t we level the playing field on the basis of looks, and make some of the beautiful people have to apply to community college at the last minute? If Bill and Melinda Gates can establish a college fund for hispanic students, and be hailed as heros, why would it seem like a cruel joke to have the Steve Jobs Scholarship Fund for the Profoundly Ugly?
2)Why not give preferential treatment to assholes–i.e people who’s brains are more hardwired for violence and aggression? Is it their fault they were born that way? Their life is a difficult one because their anger always gets in the way of them being good people. Is it fair that they have to work MUCH harder to suppress violent urges? Are they better people for learning to deal with that difference, or do WE need to spend more time accomodating their anger?
3) Why not give preferential treatment to white people in the 100-meter dash, much like we give preferential treatment to black people in academic admissions? What if there was a quota for white people, asians, and native americans that would make the final heat? Wouldn’t the world benefit from more diversity in the 100-meter final just as much as it would benefit from diversity in the freshman class? Why are these different?
We don’t do any of this for the same reason that we don’t give a wheelchair to a guy who walks with a limp. In giving him the wheelchair, which seems like a great way to help him keep up with everyone in the 5K, you’ve made sure that he’ll never improve his walking ability, and on the contrary, will make it worse by never allowing him to walk on his own. Ironically, he will rely on that wheelchair more each minute that he benefits from it’s use. Is life fair for him? No. Can we fix that? Or would we only make things worse (or permanent) by trying to fix them?
It’s hard to be born into a race that has been neglected and marginalized for generations (or a house with shitty parents, or a neighborhood riddled with crime)–these people definitely have an uphill battle, and I don’t mean to take that away from anyone. But recognize that those things are part of who you are, and by removing the obstacles in your path, the person who is trying to help you is also robbing you of your identity. **The challenges that I’ve faced and overcome are the biggest parts of what define me as a person, and I’d be LESS of a person if someone robbed me of those victories by giving them to me.**
TL;DR: Life’s not fair? Deal with it.
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Does seem like a dubious system when a spanish born person has an advantage over a french born person in the US. Not that I like the french.
When she showed up to school and they found out she was white? Shit. Went. Down.
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Hmm, fishy.