To people raised with racist parents/guardians, what caused you to have a different mindset?

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To people raised with racist parents/guardians, what caused you to have a different mindset?

I’m so conflicted right now. My best friend, let’s call him Mark, and I have been inseparable since middle school. We’ve been through everything together. Recently, Mark started dating a girl, Sarah, and I’ve been happy for him. However, Sarah is… a lot.

She’s incredibly high-maintenance, constantly needs attention, and frankly, I find her exhausting. Mark, on the other hand, seems completely smitten and oblivious to these things. Last night, we were all hanging out, and Sarah was going on and on about some minor inconvenience she faced during the day.

I, completely unintentionally, rolled my eyes. I didn’t say anything, but Mark saw it. He pulled me aside later and asked what my problem was. I told him I wasn’t a fan of Sarah, and that I thought she was being dramatic. He got really upset, saying I was being a bad friend and that I should be supportive.

We ended up arguing, and now we’re not speaking. Am I the asshole for not liking his girlfriend and letting him know, even indirectly?

Here’s how people reacted:

iwaslostbutnowisee

I was raised in a high demand religion/cult which promotes homophobia, exclusion, and racism. The thing that changed me, honestly, was watching documentaries.

I started working for myself doing leatherwork. I was working with my hands all day and began watching all sorts of documentaries just to have something going in the background, and watched basically anything that sounded interesting. I’d begin watching something that I was completely opposed to/didn’t agree with (abortion, legalization of same-sex marriage, immigration, etc.) and hearing different sides of the argument along with *humanizing* these large groups of people I thought I had nothing in common with, just really started to make me feel empathy towards them.

In the end, I realized we all feel the same feelings, everyone is just trying to do their best, and who am I to say people can/can’t do things just because it makes me more comfortable to feel right about everything? My brother also came out as bisexual a few years into this transition out of beliefs and I was so glad I had gone through that shift because rather than worrying about his eternal salvation, if he was sinning, worrying about him “sinning” in front of my nieces, nephews, etc. I just realized he’s the same person, he’s a good person, and that God would be an asshole to send him to Hell for being bisexual.

ThePizzaGuy67

My dad was kind of a homophobe growing up, and the event that changed my mind was my best friend coming out. When I was finally told, I found out that I was the last person to know. My own best friend was afraid to tell me because of some sideways remarks I made growing up, and it really opened my eyes to how wrong my upbringing was. We’re totally fine now, and he was even in my wedding party, but it was a total shock.
gamman

Education.
arcowhip

Honestly it was the Bible. It said Jesus saw us all the same in spirit, so if he did then I should. I am no longer Christian but those formative years in the church did gear me towards compassion and love towards all.
I_am_a_myomancer

Having a gay aunt who was co raising a black daughter on the other side of the family. It’s difficult to be a bigot if the out group has a swimming pool and regularly orders pizza with you.
flquigs

My biggest turning point was probably 4/5th grade when I told my parents that Abraham Lincoln was my favorite president because he freed the slaves, and my mom said that Lincoln was an idiot and the n-words should only be slaves. After all the slave horror stories we were taught, I just couldn’t accept that. That’s not to say I was the most accepting person until I got older, late middle school early high school.
audiomuse1

Actually meeting and getting to know people of different races. Realizing that people are people.

Also learning more about the history of this country and how our society works. So much of the injustice in the past is still felt today.

portajohnjackoff

Actually interacting with people not like me
aylandgirl

I was an nerdy, outcast, overweight kid and always the underdog. This automatically made me root for the underdog, disenfranchised, dismissed, underrepresented, etc. person in every situation. Still, to this day.
OhHeyFreeSoup

I was kind of always aware that the racism/ racial stereotyping of my mom (though she’ll deny she’s racist) was B.S., if only because I didn’t grow up in a homogeneous neighborhood. Our town is roughly half White (mainly Italian – like us), half Latino (mainly Mexican or Puerto Rican), though we have a slowly growing Black population, too (a lot of the surrounding towns are mostly Black). Basically, I went to school with their kids every day. There were just as many good parents, bad parents, well-behaved kids, troublemakers, etc., that you’d find in any demographic. Please keep in mind that I was bullied quite badly in middle school, and some of my tormentors were Black and Latino – but they were also White. Shitty middle-schoolers will pick on an easy target, ethnicity of the bully notwithstanding.

I point this out because I’d hear some things my mom or grandma would say, and try to explain why it was wrong (or even just come out with, “Please stop saying that!”), and pretty much all I’d be met with is, “You’ll understand when you get older.”

I got older. They’re still wrong.

(On a side note, it amazes me sometimes just how racist Italian-Americans can be, especially considering some of the absolute B.S. many of our immigrant ancestors had to put up with.)

Save-Ferris1

Being adopted, I am brown unlike my white, American parents. So being brought up to distrust “all those blacks” or the “wetback thieves” were lessons that were never going to take.

I later took two years off of college to work to elect African Americans from my community into public office. My father in particular was less than supportive, but the fact they were all Democrats may have played into that as well.

Gastric_Blob

My dad hated everyone that wasn’t a white male. When I was being raised by him I was told I was meant to be a man’s property so I already wasn’t valued. While I wasn’t a hateful racist I got roped into his blind judgement of everyone and because I was a white female I assumed people of different races were violent and mean because my dad use to fill my head with that shit constantly.

Then he kicked me out when I was 17, almost 18. I could only afford a small apartment in a shitty part of town and I got to meet a lot of different people from different races. I went to college on the pill grant and I got to know my classmates, I learned about different cultures and religions and the history of the people my father told me were worthless and no better than animals.

I’m almost 30 now and I don’t speak to him anymore really. It took a while to shake the feeling of being told I was worthless but I also learned that woman aren’t useless and if I wasn’t useless then neither was anyone else my dad hated. My father was just a bigoted angry man that drove all his kids and his wife away from him because he was hateful and violent.

I will never again judge someone on the color of their skin or their nationality, their sexuality or their gender. I cannot live with hate in my heart for people just trying to live their lives. Hatred doesn’t fix anything and it doesn’t feel good – it’s also counter productive.

fireflyserenity85

The army. Primarily being forced to interact and cooperate with all these people from everywhere with every kind of difference you can imagine.

Sad thing was I never knew my family was racist until I left the military and moved home. I can’t stand they way they talk and I call them out every single time. They are changing, slowly, but they are

LadyChatterteeth

Going to college and finally paying attention in history class. Reading literature, including critical race theory. Having professors I admired and respected of different ethnicities.

Becoming close friends with a gay Latino.

Going through difficult life experiences, which shaped me into a more empathetic person. Noticing how others habitually treated and looked at POC on the street or in casual encounters, as well as the negative assumptions they made about them on face value.

Getting absolutely sick of “jokes” and cruel, ignorant comments.

Dumpstakitty1

My mom came out as a lesbian when I was 14. Total shift in how I saw the world and I’m way better for it. She’s been with the same woman for 23 years now and my moms are the most wonderful humans I’ve ever met.
ironmaven

Luckily, a good social environment at school that was accepting of everyone. I went to a very liberal Catholic school that taught it wasn’t wrong to be gay and actively taught and promoted different cultures. They didn’t shy away from topics about slaves and Indian reservations. They even taught a very comprehensive sex-ed and used an approach to promote safe-practices rather than ignorance.

My mom’s side of the family is especially racist, although my mom has come a long way because my sisters and I have friends of all races, sexes, genders, and backgrounds. Over time, my mom’s exposure to my friends and my ideas helped dull the effects of her racism and homophobia. She sits and listens when I tell her about my experiences with other cultures and show her interesting videos. She even surprised me last week when I talked about gender-neutral bathrooms and she switched from being previously against to mostly for it.

Other topics she’s decided are ok: same-sex marriage (or marriage equality), adoption by same-sex couples, people who are trans, Canada’s acceptance of many refugees.

My dad is a lot less racist and homophobic. He grew up in a seminary but then later left the church and never went back. He’s adopted a lot of the acceptance mindset and rejected a lot of the hellfire and brimstone concepts. He used to have a gay roommate who was a fighter pilot who once saved his nose from frostbite (that’s a story for a different thread). He’s fine with people being gay, but he can’t explain his still-aversion to gay marriage.

90daycraycray

My father is a casual racist who knows better than to be racist in public but will totally spew some ridiculous shit in private. My brother and I always thought he was an antiquated asshole who was behind the times so we don’t take his opinons on anything seriously. Ironically he is the one who exposed us to so many other cultures because he was a hard core foodie before foodie culture went trendy. If it was a tiny dive restaurant run by just off the plane immigrants where we were lucky to get an English translation menu we were there for dinner. He would go on and on about “XYZ people are blah blah blah but this place has the best *insert country’s food* while we drove there. I now live in NYC and will continue to search and eat at the tiny family run spots but I’m not going to diss their culture, their country or their skin color.
Fource

In first grade I asked my mom if I could stay at Daniel’s house. The first thing she asked was, “what color is his skin?” I had no reason to suggest that Daniel was anything but a great kid. My mom is still racist and I continue to remind her about the hypocrisy with her racism and her Catholicism. Probably falling on deaf ears, but you can hope.
edgarpickle

Not me, but my wife. And she claims that it was simply the way she was born. She didn’t get along with her family very well and was greatly relieved to get away from them when she went to college.
Clay201

Part of it was the media. Every TV show I saw was telling me that racism was bad. I feel like they probably had a point. At the very least, I was open to the idea.

Another Factor was that my father was a complete son of a bitch. Not only did I regard him as a constant threat, but his life seem completely miserable and I knew I had to make sure I did not become like him. He was much more of a racist than my mother, so I figured I needed to be less racist than him, at the very least.

Also, I heard how white people talked about black people when there weren’t any black people around. I knew that I wouldn’t like it very much if people treated me that way. And I knew enough about the history of race relations in this country to figure out that white people have done some pretty awful things. So I felt like black people black people probably had some legitimate grievances.

Then, a lot of it was simply my own personal experiences. I met black people everyday who seemed quite decent. If this was a group of people I was supposed to hate, why did they seem so nice? At the very least, I felt this discrepancy had to be explained.

There were two other factors, though, that I don’t think get the attention they deserve.

One was the character of the people who were telling me black people were inferior. These white racists were real assholes. They were intolerant of all kinds of things, not just other races. They seemed prone to violence and, generally, were extremely unpleasant. There was really nothing about them that made me want to be on their team. Hell, I was downright scared of them.

The second, though, was perhaps the most infuriating for me personally. I really did not want to be told what to think. Anytime anyone tried, I got very skeptical and suspicious towards whatever they were selling. I wanted to make up my own mind.

Conclusion

The story ends with a tense silence, leaving everyone to wonder if Mark and his best friend can ever recover from this rift. Was the friendship strong enough to survive Sarah, or was this the beginning of the end?

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