AITA for keeping an emergency family iphone secretly hidden in the car my daughter drives so I can always track the location of the car?

Parents often struggle to keep up with their teenagers, and this parent is no exception. Armed with a secret weapon – a hidden phone in the car – this mom thought she had her daughter’s every move covered. When plans to study for an academic competition turned into a night out, the hidden phone revealed a shocking truth.

The daughter, eager for a taste of independence, was out with her friend Brett, supposedly hitting the books for an important event. But as the evening unfolded, the discrepancy between the daughter’s iPhone location and the hidden phone’s location sent alarm bells ringing. What started as a simple check-in quickly spiraled into a high-stakes game of cat and mouse, leading to a jaw-dropping discovery downtown.

This is the story of how a mother’s secret surveillance uncovered a teenage escapade that went far beyond academic preparation, exposing a web of deception and a secret that threatened to unravel more than just a night out.

AITA for keeping an emergency family iphone secretly hidden in the car my daughter drives so I can always track the location of the car?

Well the cat’s out of the bag on this one, but it doesn’t matter because now I have justification to reinstate previous, more stringent cell phone rules. My daughter is 16, and as most 16-year-olds, she has her own phone with less parental control. But I still have sensible rules like no turning off iPhone tracking, always answer my texts or calls immediately or within a reasonable time frame when not in school or practice, and no dead battery excuses.

But I know teenagers can be sneaky, so I have a backup tracking plan that I keep secret from her. I have an extra older version iPhone on my family plan that I use as an emergency phone. I hide this phone somewhere in the car that I let my daughter drive, kept on silent.

It’s always charged so I can track it when my daughter is out. This past weekend, my daughter told me she was going to her friend Brett’s house to prepare for an academic competition and an oratory event. When I checked on her iPhone and the secret iPhone, the locations matched up.

She was at her friend’s house. After dinner, I checked again. Curiously, her iPhone’s location was at her friend’s house, but my secret iPhone was clearly downtown near all the bars and nightlife. I called my daughter, and she told me everything was fine, including the car.

I drove to my car’s find iPhone location to see if maybe it was wrong, and eventually found my car parked along the street near the LGBT nightlife area. I called Brett’s father (Brett’s parents are divorced, and the dad does not live with Brett, and Brett’s mom had the night shift, so I called the dad).

Before Brett’s dad got there, I walked around asking the bouncers at the bars if they had seen my daughter or her friend (I showed them photos). I finally talked to one who remembered turning away my daughter and Brett earlier in the night for trying to use fake IDs.

I was livid. I wandered the area and eventually found my daughter and Brett hanging out at a coffee house. I waited for Brett’s dad to park before going in. I asked him what his understanding of the situation was, and he told me as far as his ex told him, the kids were supposed to be at home doing prep work for an oratory competition.

I told Brett’s dad where I was, and he and I walked into the cafe together to retrieve our kids. After we returned home, my daughter confessed to trying to sneak into a gay club with Brett, who apparently is closeted to his parents and school. She was most upset that I outed Brett to his parents this way.

But she has not given me any reason to trust her or her friend Brett, given their behavior this weekend. Stricter rules are on the way. She continues to think I am the biggest villain in her entire world, but really, if I hadn’t installed an emergency phone in the car, I wouldn’t have known the shenanigans these two were up to under the guise of studying.

Sure, I violated her and Brett’s privacy, but I feel it’s justified.

Here’s how people reacted:

grumpyspudgal

YTA. Kids do this shit *because* of parents like you. Quit fucking stalking your child.
bumbleluv

YTA for the hidden tracking device.

Yes, it sucks your daughter lied, and sucks even more that she tried to use a fake ID. At least she got turned away and was just drinking coffee. Yes, it could have been worse, but that’s what happens with teenagers sometimes. They go out, they push boundaries, and they can be stupid. I was no exception to that.

But all this has done is shown your daughter that you never trusted her, and will likely cause her to have severe trust issues with you for a long time to come. I’m 30, and still am overly secretive to my mom because of her always snooping around my room when I was a teenager. She’s going to try to dig up what’s going on with me, anyway, so what’s the point in telling her anything?

I can see this being the same with her. You really damaged that trust and that makes you the bigger asshole than your teenage daughter trying to sneak into a bar.

DidntAskDontCare

YTA. You outed a teen before they were ready and obsessively stalked your daughter. Sixteen is old enough to begin earning some independence, and I would guess she snuck around like this because she already knows you aren’t a safe adult she can trust. You owe your daughter an apology and a sincere discussion about both of your expectations – Hearing her out and not being a controlling figure. Unless you’ve left something out about your daughter being a drug dealer or underage sex worker, she doesn’t deserve to be policed like this.
Miss_OGinny

YTA

You want to bonsai your daughter to stop her from growing up. Pure and simple.

And youre a bully. You doing sneaky things behind her back = fine, but heaven forbid she does something sneaky = big trouble. Do you want to estrange your daughter? Because that’s how you estrange your daughter.

taeminthedragontamer

YTA you outed a gay kid to his family. i don’t see why you couldn’t have retrieved your daughter without ruining brett’s life as well. you were cruel to him for the sake of being cruel, and honestly YTA is too gentle a judgment for creatures like you.
sparky104

Congratulations asshole. You’ve just completely alienated your daughter from your life by not trusting her to be a teenager. I don’t know what sort of sheltered childhood you had, but at least where I’m from, teenagers sneak out. They do things against their parents wishes. They form their own opinions and become adults. You can’t just be a helicopter parent and if you think this sort of stalking antisocial behaviour towards her is going to help you or her or anyone else involved in this, you are completely wrong. This is how you get thrown in a care home once you’re old enough, and forgotten about. The only ‘stricter rules’ that need to be put in place are the ones about you and your boundaries between you and your kids. How the fuck is she meant to develop intimate relationships and meaningful connections with people when her creepy parent is watching her every move? Have you ever had every moment of your life monitored like you’re in some sort of real life Truman show? You need to seriously re-evaluate your priorities bud. If I was your daughter, I would hit the road as soon as I was old enough and never look back. And it would be completely your doing. YTA, 100% completely and utterly YTA.
sasberrie

YTA. From what you’ve written, it seems like she’s a good student, and keeps up extracurriculars. Give her a break.
ClearedHot69

YTA. Your overbearing methods are going to push your daughter away and make her act out so much later on in life causing severe consequences. I know so many people who had controlling parents in high school and when they got to college they went absolutely crazy. It’s not the move. “Strict parents raise the best liars.”
roconfused

Info: how did she answer and say everything was fine if her phone was at the house and the car was downtown with her?

Something doesn’t add up

876_b_876

Beyond A. You have an amazing kid on your hands who wanted to make her closeted friend feel comfortable. But you had to go screw that up and screw her friend too. They had shitty I.d’s and ended up in the coffee shop. Life worked out without you. I have a 13 year old that has an iphone with location services turned off. Why? Because I trust him – he hasnt given me a reason not too and I expect him to make mistakes BECAUSE WE ALL DID! Whats next? Bars on the windows? Food being slid under the door? Chill Warden…
nidoqueenofhearts

YTA. everyone’s done a good job explaining how fucking crazy the stalking aspect of this is (and i agree—it isn’t just teenagers who think it’s nuts; i’m closer to 30 than not and my parents pulled the same shit and i cut them off so thoroughly that i didn’t even go to my mother’s funeral, so that’s the direction you’re circling around in, OP), so i’m going to add what a wildly fucked up thing it was to do to out your daughter’s friend to his parents. like, chasing her down was already wild enough, but you called them before you even knew what was going on except that they were in an lgbt district? that’s the kind of thing that can get lgbt kids disowned and sometimes hurt. there’s a very real chance you’ve compromised his safety in doing this.
Beaverhausen27

So the hidden phone trick is an asshole move but I get what you were doing. What I don’t get is why you chose to cash it in for such a petty crime? You called and she answered, she was safe and while lying again she was safe. If your going to go through the trouble of a hidden phone why not save outing your hidden phone for when you can’t get ahold of her for hours, when she’s left the state, or when she’s left in a rage and you think she’ll hurt herself? This was a pretty dumb parenting move showing up with the other parent to confront a small game of lying so they could try and get her friend into a club. This was a nothing type teenager issue. You possibly comprised her friend’s home life and now your daughter doesn’t trust you over this very typical teen type trouble.

YTA

deadlyhausfrau

INFO: if she had told you she wanted to go out with her friend, would that have been acceptable? Also, do you always check the location on that phone, (which, let’s be real, clearly is not just for emergency usage but for you to track her without her knowing) or was there something different about today that made you check up?
BreadyOrNotHereICrum

ESH, you both violated each other’s trust, and you her privacy. Instead of stricter rules and further justifying her anger, maybe you should… *talk* to her and develop trust?

Teens are going to break some rules, and if you rule with an iron fist and ensure she never steps a toe out of line she will resent you.

fiona_5_

Actually, i went through a VERY similar situation when i was 16 (i’m now 29). Because I went through this, i can actually offer you my opinion with a bit of hindsight.
I, now that i’m 29, completely understand your concerns as a mother. The truth is, every city can be extremely dangerous, especially for unexperienced teenagers that think to know it all. That being said, as others have pointed out, the way you handled the situation might only teach your daughter how to lie better.
When I was 16 and my mum caught me at a bar with some of my friends she just said “let’s go home, we’ll speak tomorrow”. Of course i was terrified and my friends where too (they were scared my mum was gonna call their mums and tell them). Well, my mum didn’t do that. We had a talk the next day. She explained me WHY she was worried, WHY she needed to know where I was (you know, in case something happened and all that). She explained to me she was hurt that i kept lying to her (because this wasn’t the first time it happened) and that we really needed to work on our trust with each other. In the end, we reached an agreement. She told me no more lies between us and that if i REALLY wanted to go to a bar (yes, i know i was underage but thats a COMPLETELY different conversation), she rather drive me there and pick me up than having me take street taxis (which are dangerous in my country) and not know where i was.

In hindsight, it was the smartest thing she could have done because:
1. It completely reinstored the trust we had in each other- we had a terrible relationship when i was 16, we are best friends now
2. She knew at all times where i was and who i was hanging out with- she got to know all my friends and see for herself they were nice, decent people
3. She could see if i was drinking, etc
4. No more lies between us

Talk to your daughter, not in a form of punishment but explain to her why you were worried. If you don’t do that you could really damage the relationship between the two of you. She shouldn’t be scared of you, she should trust you and you shoudl be the person she calls when she is in trouble. Because i understand the concerns you have as a mother i’m gonna say NAH, but really, talk to her.

philmcruch

YTA ~~INFO~~ what do you think you are going to gain over tracking her every move and showing her you dont trust her?

also what shenanigans did you get up to at her age? did you tell your parents everything you were doing or did you enjoy the little bit of freedom you had?

before this incident has she ever done anything else that could get her in trouble or be considered dangerous?

ThowinItAllAwayAgain

INFO:

\- Are Brett and Adam the same person?

\- She’s upset you outed Adam, so I assume she is already out to you since that part did not upset her.

If you have to got to that extent to track your daughter than you have much bigger issues. Perhaps some family counseling is warranted here.

exciteablemango

YTA.

Literally none of your rules for her phone are sensible. It’s controlling to a creepy and nearly abusive degree. You are basically stalking your daughter. You have decided to not trust her simply because she’s a teenager. There’s a good chance the two of you won’t have a relationship once she’s an adult.

filkerdave

YTA

The minute your daughter turns 18 she’s going to move out and tell you to fuck off.

Extra points for outing her gay friend, too.

transwomenaremen0000

YTA, you track everything she does and spy on her, then you’re shocked when she hides things from you? Kids with overly strick parents only learn to keep secrets, hide, and lie.

Conclusion

The fallout from this clandestine adventure was immediate and intense. The daughter, caught red-handed trying to sneak into a gay club with her friend Brett, faced not only her mother’s wrath but also the unintended consequence of outing Brett to his parents.

While the daughter felt betrayed and labeled her mother a villain, the parent stood firm, asserting that the emergency phone was a necessary evil to uncover the truth. The trust shattered by this weekend’s events has led to a drastic rethinking of cell phone privileges, with even stricter rules on the horizon.

This tale serves as a stark reminder that teenage rebellion can take unexpected turns, and sometimes, parental vigilance, however intrusive, might be the only way to navigate the complex and often hidden world of adolescence. The question remains: was the invasion of privacy justified by the deception, or will this experience forever damage the mother-daughter relationship?

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